Can You Calculate the Maximum Distance in an Egg Toss Without Initial Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around estimating the maximum distance two individuals can toss a raw egg without breaking it, given specific parameters such as the force required to break the shell and the mass of the egg. The problem involves concepts from physics, particularly relating to forces, acceleration, and projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the need for initial velocity and how it relates to the force exerted during the toss. There are discussions about estimating maximum acceleration and the implications of strong tossers on the egg's trajectory. Some participants question how to incorporate acceleration into their calculations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested using centripetal acceleration to determine initial velocity, while others are questioning assumptions about strength and acceleration. There is no clear consensus, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are working under the constraints of estimating values and making reasonable assumptions about launch angles and physical capabilities. The problem does not provide explicit values for initial velocity or other parameters, leading to a reliance on estimation and theoretical reasoning.

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two people toss a raw egg in the egg toss. the force required to break the shell is 5N. the mass of the egg is 50g. estimate the maximum separation distance for the egg throwers. make whatever reasonable assumptions you need to about the launch angle and hand movement.

isnt an initial velocity needed for this problem?
 
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Originally posted by formulajoe
isnt an initial velocity needed for this problem?
That's what you've got to figure out. How fast can you toss that egg without breaking it?
 
Suppose the tossers are very, very, very strong. Then what?
 
Originally posted by gnome
Suppose the tossers are very, very, very strong. Then what?
Hint: How strong do they have to be to exert 5 N?
 
okay, so i figured the acceleration for the egg to break to be 100 m/s^2.
im estimating the max distance to be 100 m.
im stuck. how do i figure in the 100 m/s^2? the acceleration in both directions is going to be constant. 0 in the x direction and 9.8 in the y direction.
so if the tossers are very strong, they would throw the egg very hard. leaving a high initial velocity. but that doesn't help with how to get the acceleration so high.
 
How long is your arm?
 
oooohhh, use centripetal acceleration to get initial velocity?
 
Originally posted by formulajoe
okay, so i figured the acceleration for the egg to break to be 100 m/s^2.
im estimating the max distance to be 100 m.
The max distance is what you're supposed to be figuring out. Don't guess at that answer!

You figured out the max acceleration the egg can withstand. Now use Bystander's hint!
 
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using centripetal acc. i found the velocity to be 31.6 m/s with a radius(arm length) of .5 m. I am assuming the launch angle to be 60 deg from the horizontal.
i have a feeling I am way off though.
am i getting close?
 
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Trout or Carp

You sound like you are from a town named after a fish.
 
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Tom, are you still around. I looked at it like Work = mV^2 where V is the horizontal velocity. I don't know if I am right.
 
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uhhh how do you know my name?
 
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Because you told me about this place at church today.
 

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