Simplifying an Indeterminate Quotient: Help Needed

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The original poster is working on finding the limit of a quotient involving alternating terms and exponential growth as n approaches infinity. The problem is situated within the context of limits and indeterminate forms in calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the behavior of the expression as n increases, suggesting that it approaches a simpler form. There are hints towards considering the dominant terms and the behavior of the quotient in terms of rational functions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the limit by identifying dominant terms and simplifying the expression. There is an ongoing exploration of intuitive understanding versus rigorous justification of the limit process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the indeterminate form of infinity over infinity and discuss strategies for simplification without providing explicit solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the behavior of terms as n increases.

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I need to take the limit of this quotient as n goes to infinity:
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[2(-1)^(n+1) - 3^(n+1)]
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[2(-1)^(n) - 3^(n)]
It seems to go to infinity over infinity in its current form, which, if I recall correctly, is indeterminate. It seems then that I need to simplify it...but I don't know how. Any ideas greatly appreciated.
 
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The expression you have written approaches 3(n+1)/3n for large n. I presume you can take it from here.
 
Well, mathman already handed you the bit that your intuition should get you. The key there is to look at all of the pieces of the expression and figure out how they behave as n goes to infinity.

Once you've figured out that intuitive part, you already know the trick to rigorously work through that limit -- I'll leave it to you to figure out.

(By rigorously, I mean that you don't just say that the limit is obviously converging to 3n+1 / 3n)

(If you really need another hint: think about rational functions[/color], but try not to peek!)
 
Terms that go to infinity are hard to handle. Terms that go to 0 are easy!
It looks to me that, for any n, 3n+1 will be the largest term. What happens if you divide every term in both numerator and denominator by 3n+1?
 

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