What Is the Probability of Drawing a Second White Ball?

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The discussion revolves around the probability of drawing a second white ball from a box after having drawn one white ball from one of three indistinguishable boxes containing different colored balls. The scope includes probability theory and reasoning related to conditional probabilities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the probability of drawing a second white ball is 1/2.
  • Others argue that the probability is actually 2/3, based on the reasoning that the box must be either black+white or white+white, and that the likelihood of having drawn from the white+white box is higher.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the calculations and suggests that the problem does not specify that the white ball is chosen at random, which could affect the probability.
  • Another participant reiterates that given the first ball drawn is white, it is twice as likely that the box is the one containing two white balls compared to the one containing one white and one black ball.
  • One participant mentions that the problem is a brain teaser and implies that the answer is not straightforward.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the probability, with some supporting 1/2 and others supporting 2/3. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the correct probability.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the selection process of the balls, which may influence the interpretation of the probabilities involved.

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You have 3 indistinguishable boxes, containing each one, 2 colored balls: black+black, black+white & white+white.

You open one box and, whithout seeing its interior, you take one white ball.

What is the probability of taking a second white ball from the same box?
 
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Is it 1/2?

And shouldn't this be in the Statistics/Set Theory section?
 
No, it's just a brain teaser.
Btw, it seems the correct answer is not 1/2 .
 
Oops. I got 1/2 by doing it in my head. When I did it on paper, I got 2/3. Is that right?
 
...bingo !
 
Normally they is an explanation for the stupidier people. :wink: WINK WINK :wink:

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
I would never think of that ! Stupid people doesn't like calculations !
 
Rogerio said:
I would never think of that ! Stupid people doesn't like calculations !

Ok the point is I don't understand and I wish to. :biggrin:

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
[tex]\frac{2}{3}[/tex] seems much too high to me.

Consider, the box that is picked must either be B+W or W+W (since it's impossible to pull B+B). Now, barring some kind of sillyness, that leaves a box containing B or a box containing W. Assuming that the boxes were picked with even probability, that's a 50% probability of getting a white ball.
 
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P(A|B)=P(A^B)/P(B)=(1/3)/(1/2) = 2/3

So, what's wrong with the other argument - Nate's ?

Got it - given that the first pick is W, it's twice as likely to be the WW box as it is to be the BW box.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
P(A|B)=P(A^B)/P(B)=(1/3)/(1/2) = 2/3

So, what's wrong with the other argument - Nate's ?

Got it - given that the first pick is W, it's twice as likely to be the WW box as it is to be the BW box.

It's unclear what the process is, so the probability could be anything.

The problem doesn't specify that the white ball is chosen at random. If the problem were something like: You pick one ball from the box, what is the probability that the other ball is the same color? The answer would certainly be 2/3.
 
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Rogerio said:
You have 3 indistinguishable boxes, containing each one, 2 colored balls: black+black, black+white & white+white.

You open one box and, whithout seeing its interior, you take one white ball.

What is the probability of taking a second white ball from the same box?








2/3.

There are three white balls you could have pulled out of the box. Of the three, one ball has another black ball in the box. Two balls have another white ball in the box.
 

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