Define Free Will: Satisfactory Definition?

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The discussion revolves around defining the concept of free will, particularly in the context of logical positivism. Participants explore how to articulate a definition without using synonyms for "free will" and examine the implications of such definitions on the understanding of agency and randomness.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a definition of free will based on the inability to predict an agent's future physical or psychological state, even with complete knowledge of their current state.
  • Another participant questions how this definition differentiates "freely willed" actions from random occurrences and seeks clarity on defining internal conditions through external behaviors.
  • A third participant suggests that free will might be an unanalysable concept and invites further exploration of alternative definitions.
  • There is a suggestion that any definition of free will should include a condition that the agent's actions are rationally comprehensible and aimed at achieving some purpose.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the proposed definition is satisfactory and whether free will can be adequately defined at all. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the nature of free will.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenge of defining an internal concept like will in terms of observable behavior, indicating potential limitations in the proposed definitions.

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Following the the logical positivist convention of defining a term in use I am seeking a definition of free will as it occurs in the proposition "[agent]A has free will". This will involve formulating an equivalent proposition which uses no synonyms of "free will".

I believe it can be done in this way: "At any time t, even if all facts are known about A's physical and psychological state, no reliable hypothesis could ever be able to predict A's physical or psychological state at time t+d."

Is this a satisfactory definition?
 
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Skomatth said:
Following the the logical positivist convention of defining a term in use I am seeking a definition of free will as it occurs in the proposition "[agent]A has free will". This will involve formulating an equivalent proposition which uses no synonyms of "free will".

I believe it can be done in this way: "At any time t, even if all facts are known about A's physical and psychological state, no reliable hypothesis could ever be able to predict A's physical or psychological state at time t+d."

Is this a satisfactory definition?

How does this distinguish "freely willed" from random? In general how can you define an inner condition like will in terms of external behavior?
 
Good point. Do you think free will is an unanalysable concept or could this be defined differently?
 
selfAdjoint said:
How does this distinguish "freely willed" from random? In general how can you define an inner condition like will in terms of external behavior?

You need to add a rider to the effect that the agent's action is nonetheless
rationally comprehensible ie aimed at achieving some purpose.
 

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