Solving Bernoulli Equation - Can't Get Correct Answer

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form t^2y' + 2ty - y^3 = 0, with a focus on the substitution method and the implications of missing terms in the transformation process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the substitution v = y^{-2} and its implications on the differential equation. There are discussions about the correct handling of derivatives and the constant of integration. Some participants question the algebraic transformation and the steps taken to arrive at the solution.

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The conversation is active, with participants offering insights into the mistakes made in the substitution process and the importance of including all terms, such as v'. There is acknowledgment of errors, and some participants suggest further steps to clarify the solution process.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring that all components of the differential equation are accounted for, particularly the derivatives and constants of integration, which are critical in solving such equations. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the correctness of their answer as compared to the solution provided in the textbook.

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I cannot get the correct answer to this for some reason:

[tex]t^2y'+2ty-y^3=0[/tex]

I use the substitution [itex]v=y^{1-n}=y^{-2}\implies y=v^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/itex] and come up with [itex]y'=-\frac{1}{2}v^{-\frac{3}{2}}[/itex] and [itex]y^3=v^{-\frac{3}{2}}[/itex].

[tex]-\frac{1}{2}t^2v^{-\frac{3}{2}}+2tv^{-\frac{1}{2}}-v^{-\frac{3}{2}}=0[/tex]

Then multiplying through by [itex]v^{-2}[/itex] gives:

[tex]-\frac{1}{2}t^2v^{3}+2t-v^{3}=0=2t-\left(\frac{1}{2}t^2+1\right)v^3[/tex]

For which I would say:

[tex]v=\left(\frac{2t}{\frac{1}{2}t^2+1}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}}[/tex]

But according to the back of my book, that answer is incorrect. What did I do wrong?

Thanks for your help.
 
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If [itex]y= v^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/itex] then [itex]y'= -\frac{1}{2}v^{-\frac{3}{2}}v'[/itex].

You seem to have dropped v' throughout. Your differential equation became an algebraic equation!
 
And what happen to the constant of integration?

So you got:

[tex]t^2y^{'}+2ty-y^3=0[/tex]

Divide by [itex]t^2[/itex] and then divide by [itex]y^3[/itex], leads to:

[tex]y^{-3}dy+\frac{2}{t}y^{-2}t=\frac{1}{t^2}dt[/tex]

Noting that:

[tex]d(y^{-2})=-2y^{-3}dy[/tex]

and that's what you have up there on the left, we make the substitution:

[tex]v=y^{-2}[/tex]

and:

[tex]dv=-2y^{-3}dy[/tex]

Plug that in up there, rearrange to a first-order ODE in terms of v and t, find the integrating factor, integrate and not forgetting about the constant of integration, solve for v(t), then converting back to y, you should get:

[tex]y(t)=\pm \sqrt{\frac{5t}{2+5ct^5}}[/tex]

Now what?
 
Ahhh, I can't believe I forgot the v'! Thanks for your help.
 

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