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Nov11-08, 07:41 PM   #86
 

I made the following conjecture


see http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A067760

a(n) = least positive k such that (2n+1)+2^k is prime.

COMMENT Does a(1065) exist? (Is 2131+2^k composite for all positive k?)
Nov11-08, 07:45 PM   #87
 
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I do believe that S is infinite wich ==> twin prime, of course, but its not interesting to find that S is infinite
No, twin prime conjecture => S is infinite. A priori, it's possible that S is infinite but the twin prime conjecture fails.

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it is possible to work with only that PARI program to deal with VERY large prime numbers? like 30 bits numbers?
Pari can easily work with numbers up to hundreds of bits. To prove the primality of numbers with thousands of digits, I use Primo instead.
Nov11-08, 07:47 PM   #88
 
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nice find!! what is interesting is that when k is odd p - 2^k is allways divisible by 3 as the smallest prime number factor, but perhaps this means anything
The least prime factor of p - 2^k for p > 3 always alternates between 3 and another number. This is true because 3 does not divide p.
Nov11-08, 08:06 PM   #89
 
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No, twin prime conjecture => S is infinite. A priori, it's possible that S is infinite but the twin prime conjecture fails.



Pari can easily work with numbers up to hundreds of bits. To prove the primality of numbers with thousands of digits, I use Primo instead.
my mistake, I changed the order... but this is not important, you made a nice work here, this is all what matters!!!! congrats, CGR4

could you state, in a later moment, the exactly densitiy of counterexamples?

you said n/(11511227035838054400 log n) but from where you put 11511227035838054400?
Nov11-08, 08:10 PM   #90
 
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The least prime factor of p - 2^k for p > 3 always alternates between 3 and another number. This is true because 3 does not divide p.
you mean as p will never be 3 (must be at least 5 because k > 0)??

still not very clear to me
Nov11-08, 11:14 PM   #91
 
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there also a kind of pathern to 11 when the values of k goes from +10, +20, +10, +20

and 7 goes from +6, +6, +6, ...
Every tenth one should be divisible by 11 (again, this is true because you're working mod 11 and the order of 2 mod 11 is 10). The ones that look like they're skipped just have other small factors.
Nov11-08, 11:17 PM   #92
 
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you mean as p will never be 3 (must be at least 5 because k > 0)??

still not very clear to me
p is a prime, so 3 doesn't divide p (unless p = 3, but I said p > 3 to exclude that). Thus either 3 divides p - 1 or 3 divides p - 2. But 3 never divides 2^k (obviously), so 2^k is always 1 or 2 mod 3. In fact it alternates, giving you that pattern.
Nov11-08, 11:18 PM   #93
 
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see http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A067760

a(n) = least positive k such that (2n+1)+2^k is prime.

COMMENT Does a(1065) exist? (Is 2131+2^k composite for all positive k?)
I mentioned A067760 in my PDF already.

In the update I send to Dr. Sloane yesterday, I said that 2131 + 2^k is not prime for 1 <= k <= 1,000,000.
Nov11-08, 11:28 PM   #94
 
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you made a nice work here, this is all what matters!!!! congrats, CGR4
Thanks!

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could you state, in a later moment, the exactly densitiy of counterexamples?

you said n/(11511227035838054400 log n) but from where you put 11511227035838054400?
I don't know the exact density of the counterexamples. I made a rough guess (based on working mod 18446744073709551615 and a bunch of other things) about how many counterexamples there would be of one particular form, but I don't know that there aren't others.

The counterexample I found has 20 digits. I guessed that there would be a counterexample of at most 21 digits, which seems pretty good. I checked that there are no counterexamples with less than 5 digits. So the smallest counterexample has 5 to 20 digits.

Direct checking is hard, but will probably show that there are no 5 digit counterexamples. If I continued, I'd probably find a 6 or 7 digit number that I won't be able to easily show to be a counterexample or not a counterexample.
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