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| Jan24-09, 10:47 AM | #35 |
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Does your brain outpower a computer?
Believe it or not. Humans are programmed! Well if we go down to the core of question we will discover that everyone has a genetic code, which we call DNA. This code is unique (i mean without cloning , etc).
"...DNA is often compared to a set of blueprints or a recipe, or a code, since it contains the instructions needed to construct other components of cells, such as proteins and RNA molecules. The DNA segments that carry this genetic information are called genes, but other DNA sequences have structural purposes, or are involved in regulating the use of this genetic information." source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA This means that we are programmed and can think? Of course computers cannot think (yet), but if it were possible to make computers to learn (e.g: fire is dangerous), then act correctly (e.g: avoid everything being fire related). Can consider that thinking? We do the same thing, learn from falling down, or seeing others fall down. Do you need to put your hand in fire know that it will hurt? Or do you need to drink a cup of boiling water to know that it be bad for you? these questions answer many other questions. |
| Jan24-09, 12:27 PM | #36 |
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Having "DNA" is not being programmed, it is your "genetic makeup" or "design" that you are refering to.... Now I guess you could say we are programmed to breathe, but "programmed" isn't the right word here. All life has an "inherent" "nature" or an "essence" to "continue its existence", to perpetuate, preserve, and protect "itself"...whatever "itself" may be.....whether "consciously" or "subcounsiously", from the moment we are born. (....perhaps this is why that which has "life" is "afraid" to "die"?) This is found in all lifeforms, and with that being said it is the "design" of "life" itself and NOT the term "programmed" that you speak of. If you still don't get it: Life is an "essence" that inherently has us do something to preserve itself, its not programming. Programming has no essence.. it just is what it is, an instruction with no other meaning. There is NO "essence", NO "intuition" that exists it to perpetuate itself. |
| Jan31-09, 01:14 PM | #37 |
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Perhaps life is programmed to preserve itself. Programmed is probably not the best word to use here, because it implies some consciously coded set of instructions to carry out. Whether or not life was consciously 'coded' is debatable, but in my opinion seems highly unlikely. Life is adapted to preserve itself.
An organism's genome could be analogous to a program. Genetic information within our genome consisting of DNA contains the instructions necessary for building our bodies, including our brains. Our bodies are vehicles built by genes for the purpose of perpetuating those genes, even to the detriment of the individual organism itself. Using the word program does not take away any meaning or special quality from life. It does not take away it's essence, whatever that is. Life itself could be compared to an amazingly complex set of programmed instructions. The fact that we do not yet have the knowledge or methods to understand it fully does not necessarily mean that life has some sort of magical quality that is absolutely superior to our fairly limited computational devices. |
| Jan31-09, 06:21 PM | #38 |
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| Jan31-09, 06:55 PM | #39 |
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"Does your brain outpower a computer?"
The answer is: Yes and No. Or if you like, we can say it depends. It depends on what we are considering. If some situations computers outpower humans, or else we wouldn't need computers for fast and accurate calculations, processing of information, etc. There are other situations where computers cannot react or interact with new situations, from this point of view humans win. In a distant future, i believe computers will outpower humans in over 90%, lets just look at the fact that we are limited physically and mentally. One of the uniqueness of us is the fact that we have something called conscious. Just that itself outpowers any imaginable computer system. |
| Jan31-09, 07:06 PM | #40 |
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What concrete, observational experiment can be used to determine what does and does not have consciousness? |
| Jan31-09, 07:43 PM | #41 |
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| Jan31-09, 08:02 PM | #42 |
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My intent wasn't to challenge you to solve a long-standing philosophical problem -- it was more just to come up with something that can be observed and supports your argument. You effectively claimed three things:
Humans have consciousness. Computers do not (and cannot) have consciousness. Consciousness involves a huge amount of 'computing' power. from which you conclude that the human brain outpowers any imaginable computer. I don't really care if you can come up with a generally accepted definition of 'consciousness' -- I just want a definition that satisfies your three claims! |
| Feb1-09, 02:08 AM | #43 |
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In my humble opinion, computers have yet reached the level of intelligence as humans because so far only humans (and perhaps animals) have the ability to be curious. We wonder why the sky is blue, why it hurts when we fall, etc. While current computers can learn it cannot wonder.
By the way, I am pretty paranoid about the artificial lifeforms taking over the world thing lol. They better place a virus into every single robot just in case. |
| Feb1-09, 10:10 AM | #44 |
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Recently there was something of a breakthrough regarding this
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| Feb1-09, 11:33 AM | #45 |
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