Analogous Hawking Radiation from Astrophysical Black Hole Accretion

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The discussion revolves around the concept of analogous Hawking radiation in the context of astrophysical black hole accretion, exploring the nature of acoustic black holes and acoustic event horizons. Participants are examining the relationship between acoustic oscillations in accretion matter and the theoretical implications of these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether analogous Hawking radiation is simply acoustic oscillations in the accretion matter or if it involves more complex phenomena like black hole ringing and gravity waves.
  • Another participant suggests that acoustic oscillations may be viewed as string/texture vibrations against a background of vacuum energy, drawing parallels to acoustic wave propagation in tori objects.
  • A different participant expresses uncertainty about the term "string/texture" and notes that many attribute acoustics to the properties of accretion matter based on size and energy.
  • One participant introduces the idea of string/texture vibrations as hypothetical remnants from the Inflationary Period of the Big Bang, suggesting they have unique gravitational fields and relate to the evolution of the D-F string network.
  • A participant expresses interest in the research being discussed but admits to not fully understanding the previous responses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the nature of analogous Hawking radiation, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms like "acoustic black hole" and "string/texture vibrations," as well as the dependence on various theoretical frameworks that remain unresolved.

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Hi everyone

Im trying to understand a paper(title of the thread)
arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0404482

Just woundering what an acoustic black hole and acoustic event horizon would actually be?
Is the Analogous Hawking Radiation just ascoustic osccilations in the Accretion matter? like the acoustic ossilation that are present in the CMB?

Or is it something more complicated like black hole ringing, in which case do gravity waves come into play? they(the paper) never mention gravity waves so is it just ascoustic vibrations?

If so how is this analogous Hawking Radiation?

Interesting paper though ( i think)
 
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25 wrote;
“Is the Analogous Hawking Radiation just acoustic osccilations in the Accretion matter?”

I would contend that acoustic oscillations are merely string/texture vibrations against the background vacuum energy.

Its similar to the properties of acoustic wave propagation and epicyclic oscillations within certain tori objects.

For a brief overview, see;
http://www.ingenta.com/isis/searchi...ike://bsc/mnr/2003/00000344/00000003&index=29
 
Nommos Prime (Dogon) said:
25 wrote;
“Is the Analogous Hawking Radiation just acoustic osccilations in the Accretion matter?”

I would contend that acoustic oscillations are merely string/texture vibrations against the background vacuum energy.

Its similar to the properties of acoustic wave propagation and epicyclic oscillations within certain tori objects.

For a brief overview, see;
http://www.ingenta.com/isis/searchi...ike://bsc/mnr/2003/00000344/00000003&index=29
What do you mean by "string/texture"? (Just asking, not contesting).

Most (I think) simply attribute the acoustics to properties of accretion matter based on size (mass) and energy. There is a good paper from 1997, before the "recent" famous detection, about what might cause and must be the source of BH acoustics. See:

http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~visser/cqg-acoustic.pdf
 
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String/Texture Vibrations

In my research;

String/texture vibrations are “hypothetical” remnants (of Earth-mass size for each 90+/-cm of length) from the Inflationary Period of the Big Bang. They possesses enigmatic gravitational fields (affecting 4-11 dimensions) which are electrical superconductors. You could call them “imperfections in the geometry of space”. They relate (and probably explain) the resultant evolution of the D-F string network in compact dimensions.

The only reference “in peer-reviewed journals” I can find is in paper form. It is a document which comes close to explaining how I picture them;
“Antigravity Beams from Cosmic Strings:
T. Vachaspati, Physical Review D35, 1767, (1987).”
Sorry, but there is not much on the Net I can refer you to. My Vacuum Heart Theory really needs a new language (not even Maths can explain it adequately). I hope this doesn’t all sound too “double-entendre like”…
 
im just glad someone finnaly replied
didnt understand to much of your relpy Dogon but would love to get into some of that research your doing

25
 

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