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| Aug2-09, 09:05 PM | #18 |
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Electric Jet Ducted Fan? |
| Aug2-09, 09:26 PM | #19 |
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Nuclear power case
Appears the old nuclear aviation case is feasible with HTS electric fans: -737 fuel load = 26 tons -737 engine power cruise (x2): 5.5MW [24kN * 228m/s] -Replace fuel load w/ Hyperion 25MW(e) small reactor. Weight, size: 15-20 tons, 1.5M OD x 2M Range: Five years aloft
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| Aug2-09, 09:54 PM | #20 |
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See: Skunk Works, Ben L. Rich for more good info on this. |
| Aug2-09, 09:59 PM | #21 |
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| Aug2-09, 10:34 PM | #22 |
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| Aug10-09, 06:51 PM | #23 |
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Realistically, I suppose that the costs of certifying a radically new technology aircraft for a small market segment make the 'electric shuttle to Boston' unaffordable. |
| Aug10-09, 06:59 PM | #24 |
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| Aug10-09, 07:10 PM | #25 |
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| Aug10-09, 07:11 PM | #26 |
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| Aug10-09, 07:27 PM | #27 |
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| Aug10-09, 07:30 PM | #28 |
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| Aug10-09, 08:10 PM | #29 |
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Regarding nuclear powered aviation, after reviewing some history I doubt the shielding would be major problem any more. A jumbo sized aircraft can afford to carry 10-15 tons of shielding. I expect the forever insurmountable problem is the risk of nuclear contamination in the event of a crash.
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| Aug10-09, 09:05 PM | #30 |
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| Aug10-09, 10:41 PM | #31 |
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Look up "Project Pluto" for the nuclear propulsion R&D effort.
In terms of electrics, I think the idea will come in some form, some day. There are too many benefits to not chase after them. In part of my company's business, customers would go gaga at the chance for an extremely quiet ride. Of course, a ducted fan would have to be quite a bit larger in diameter to get the roughly the same amount of thrust. There are hurdles that are on the scale of putting a man on Mars to overcome though. I always wince when I read a paper that the only benefit/output is a "model" to help in the conceptual design of something that can not exist at the current point in time. |
| Aug11-09, 08:58 AM | #32 |
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Thanks for the response Fred
Edit: found my source. The Luongo paper claims in existing turbo fans, the fan produces 85% of thrust, jet produces 15% of thrust. Example: GE90 has a BPR of 9:1 |
| Aug11-09, 09:53 AM | #33 |
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You're right on that. The fan does produce the majority of the thrust.
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| Aug11-09, 10:57 AM | #34 |
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Overview of the basic propulsion concept from an earlier Masson, Luongo paper
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