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| Jul8-10, 03:33 PM | #1 |
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Does A/B' = A/B imply B' = B?
I'm probably missing something obvious, but suppose that B' < B < A are all abelian groups and that A/B is isomorphic to A/B'. Does it follow that B = B'? In the case of finite groups and vector spaces it is true by counting orders and dimensions but what about in general?
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| Jul8-10, 04:04 PM | #2 |
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It's true if the if the isomorphism is compatible with the projection maps.
That is, it's not enough that there be some random isomorphism between the groups; the projection A/B' --> A/B must be an isomorphism. As is usually the case, think about infinite subsets of the integers, and use them to construct a counter-example. The first one I came up with is: Let A be the free Abelian group generated by the symbols [n] for each integer n. Let B be the subgroup generated by the symbols [2n], and let B' be the subgroup generated by the symbols [4n]. Then A / B and A / B' are both free Abelian groups generated by a countably infinite number of elements; they are isomorphic. |
| Jul8-10, 04:10 PM | #3 |
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It strikes me that, in my example, we could let B' be finitely generated, or even be the zero group, so that it's not even isomorphic to B.
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