The Hardest Logic/puzzle Question Of All Time!


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JamesU
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May2-05, 06:09 PM
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Can you Pm it to me , please.
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robert
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May6-05, 04:20 PM
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Ask the first god:
Does uga mean yes if, you are true if the second god is the god of chaos?
If you get the answer uga, the third god is either the god of truth or lies.
If you get the answer booga, the second god is either the god of truth or lies.
Ask the newly discovered god of truth or lies:
Does uga mean yes if 2+2=4?
The god of truth will answer uga and the god of lies will answer booga.
Ask the same god:
Does uga mean yes if the first god is the god of chaos?
You should then know which god is which.
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May6-05, 05:22 PM
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My solution;: god or gods don't exist. I don't beleiv ein them.
Rahmuss
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May8-05, 06:56 PM
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How about something like this:

Ask #1 "If uga = yes, then do those two [#2 and #3] always answer uga?"
If the answer is 'uga', then he's lying, because if uga really means yes, and #1 is the god of truth, then he will answer 'booga'. If 'uga'; means no, then the god of truth will still answer 'booga' because 'uga' does not mean yes. So if they answer 'booga' then they are telling the truth. That way you can make sure (depending on their answer) that they are for sure not the god of truth or for sure not the god of lying.

Ask #2 "Do the other two [#1 and #3] sometimes agree?"
The answer should be affirmative (whichever word that happens to be), if #2 is the god of truth, or no if it's the god of lying, unless #2 is the god who sometimes lies and sometimes tells the truth. If that's the case then you'll need the last question to clarify that.

Ask #3 "If uga = yes, then does that one [#1] always answer uga when the correct answer is uga?"
The answer again should be 'booga' if they are telling the truth, and 'uga' if they are lying. This time, however, if the answer is 'uga', then you know that this god is lying, and depending on the other answers you can find out which god is which:

A) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god)
B) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god because uga must mean yes in this case
C) - 'uga' - (truth god because the lying god won't answer correctly, and the chaos god won't always answer correctly)
#1=Liar #2=Chaos #3=Truth

A) - 'uga' - (lying god or chaos god)
B) - 'booga' - (chaos god or truth god)
C) - 'uga' - (chaos god or truth god), this set of answers only allows #1 to be the lying god, and #3 to be the truth god, thus #2 is the chaos god.
#1=Liar #2=Chaos #3=Truth

A) - 'booga' - (truth god or chaos god)
B) - 'booga' - (lying god or chaos god)
C) - 'uga' - (chaos god or lying god). This one is undetermined; but will most likely be:
#1=Truth #2=Lying #3=Chaos

A) - 'booga' - (truth god or chaos god)
B) - 'uga' - (chaos god or truth god)
C) - 'booga' - (lying god or chaos god). Again undetermined; but will most likely be:
#1=Truth #2=Chaos #3=Lying

Really no other options without switching them around, and that's pointless. Am I even close at all? If not, then PM me with the answer.
JOHNLERYMUTUC
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Mar11-11, 09:34 PM
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I can tell you guys who is GOD 1, GOD 2 and GOD 3 in just 2 questions..

1st QUESTION...
ARE YOU GUYS SIBLINGS??

posible answers:

POSIBLE ANSWER #1 for the 1st QUESTION
GOD 1 = NO
GOD 2 = NO
GOD 3 = YES

if you've got ANSWER #1: then,
GOD 3: is the GOD of TRUTH

QUESTION #2
ask GOD 3: is GOD 1 the GOD of LIES??

if GOD 3 answered "YES" then
GOD 1 is the GOD of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of CHAOS
GOD 3 is the GOD of TRUTH

else if GOD 3 answered "NO"
GOD 1 is the GOD of CHAOS
GOD 2 is the GOD of LIES
GOD 3 is the GOD of TRUTH

POSIBLE ANSWER #2 for the 1st QUESTION
GOD 1 = NO
GOD 2 = YES
GOD 3 = YES

if you've got this answer
GOD 1 is the GOD of LIES

ask GOD 1: GOD 2 is the GOD of TRUTH right?
(HE will surely LIE)

if GOD 1 answered YES then
GOD 1 is the God of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of CHaos
God 3 is the GOD of Truth

else if god 1 answered NO
GOD 1 is the God of LIES
GOD 2 is the GOD of Truth
GOd 3 is the GOD of CHAOS

^_^ is my explanation CLEAR??
JOHNLERYMUTUC
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Mar11-11, 09:41 PM
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THE REAL HINT THERE is The "FACT" that they are TWINS..
davee123
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Mar12-11, 09:30 AM
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Quote Quote by JOHNLERYMUTUC View Post
I can tell you guys who is GOD 1, GOD 2 and GOD 3 in just 2 questions..
You did it in 4 questions, AND you still don't know whether "uga" is yes or "booga" is "yes".

DaveE
Rogerio
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Mar24-11, 07:32 AM
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Quote Quote by robert View Post
Ask the first god:
Does uga mean yes if, you are true if the second god is the god of chaos?
If you get the answer uga, the third god is either the god of truth or lies.

If you get the answer booga, the second god is either the god of truth or lies.
Ask the newly discovered god of truth or lies:
Does uga mean yes if 2+2=4?
The god of truth will answer uga and the god of lies will answer booga.
Ask the same god:
Does uga mean yes if the first god is the god of chaos?
You should then know which god is which.
It doesn't work.

Suppose uga=yes, first god=truth, second god=lies, third god=chaos.

Then, the first answer will be "uga" (because the consequent "uga=yes" is true, independently of the antecendent "you are true if the second god is the god of chaos").

So, the conclusion "the third god is truth or lies" will be wrong, as everything else.
Rogerio
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Mar24-11, 07:24 PM
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Choose the first god, and tell him:

"Let's call the second god 'A', and the third one 'B'.
Consider the god of truth belongs to the group UGA, and the god of chaos and the god of lies belong to the group BOOGA.
What would you say if I asked you which group do you belong to?"


If he says UGA, he is the truth teller, otherwise he is the god of chaos or lies.
Suppose he says BOOGA (similar reasoning if the answer is UGA).
Then, ask him:

"What would you say if I asked you which group does 'A' belongs to?"

If he says UGA, 'A' is the truth teller, otherwise 'A' is the god of chaos or lies.
Suppose he says UGA. Then, 'A' is the god of truth.
Finally, ask him:

"Now, consider the god of chaos belongs to the group UGA, and the god of lies belongs to the group BOOGA.
What would you say if I asked you which group do you belong to?"


His answer shows who is who.
ungoy
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Sep7-11, 06:24 AM
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Im going to try....

first tell them to bow their head if their answer is yes and turn their head left and right if the answer is no and at the same time they need to say their answer.

set 3 questions
1. is uga means yes?
2. is my name is ungoy?
3. is my question is very easy?

question number 1
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga (bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | uga (bow their head)

question number 2
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga(bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | booga(turn their head left and right)

question number 3
3 GODS| POSSIBLE ANSWER
god1 | uga(bow their head)
god2 | booga(turn their head left and right)
god3 | uga(bow their head)


in these scenario I set 2 questions, the firs question is to know if the uga means yes or no
the second question is to confirmed if they are telling the truth or false

my 3rd questions is just to know which is the God of chaos because it will answer randomly

base to their answers
god1 is the God of truth because the answer is always uga
god2 is the lier because when i ask him my name he said booga which no
god3 is the chaos, because his answers is random ..

I already know that the uga means yes because this is the answer of the god1 who already answerd the question number 2 which is I can confirmed if his answer is true..


Is these correct?:D
davee123
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Sep8-11, 02:42 PM
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Quote Quote by ungoy View Post
first tell them to bow their head if their answer is yes and turn their head left and right if the answer is no and at the same time they need to say their answer.
They refuse. You will have to find another solution.

DaveE
FrostyRej
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Sep6-12, 05:09 AM
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Honestly it took me almost an hour to find a solution ..

but I guess yeah at last haha.. it's kinda easy specially after figuring the answer out through your logic.. somehow soothing <3

Here's the solution..

The first question will be .. any question that you know was true..

Example: Are all of you twins? (knowing through the given that they really are)

Possible situations:

Situation 1:
god A = uga
god B = booga
god C = uga

Situation 2:
god a = booga
god b = uga
god C = booga

situation 3:
god A = booga
god B = booga
god C = uga

situation 4:
god A = uga
god C = booga
god C = booga

situation 5:
god A = uga
god B = uga
god C = booga

situation 6:
god A = booga
god B = uga
god C = uga

The first question will determine the very first response and the logic starts here.. it will somehow help us to define the exact solution we need..

Let's move on to the next question:

The next question should be: "Are your answers from the past question true?"

after this question we should be able to spot who god of truth or god of lie is

Knowing that your first question was answered by the god of truth correctly(First question was any question that has a yes or true answer)..
then you should expect that in your second question, the god of truth shouldn't change his answer(knowing that god of truth always tells the truth).. therefore if any god answered with the same answer from the first question.. then he could be the god of truth..

but possibility is, god of chaos might imitate the answer of god of truth..

so here's the solution: if there are two the same answers in the second question with reference to the first question, then one of them should be the god of truth and the other must be the god of chaos..

therefore one thing is certain! the other one with the opposite answer must be the god of lies!!

now let's flip the situation the other side.. to spot the god of lie

if there are two the same opposite answers in the second question with respect to the first question.. then possibility is, one of them must be the god of chaos and the other must be the god of lies..

therefore, the other one with different answer must be the god of truth!!

to sum it up..

first question: in order to have a basis or clue and to know their reactions
second question: in order to spot either the god of truth or the god of lie..

which leads us to our last question..

so having one being eliminated from the choices .. (either the god of lies or the god of truth)

then we should be able to finish the game now. .

the simplest way to solve this is:

first, after having heard their answer in the first question.. you should remember their responses

situational solutions:

after hearing their answers in the second question.. if you spotted the god of truth.. you should note the words he said, either uga or booga.. which means, if god of truth consecutively answered booga(from question 1 to 2); therefore booga should be yes.. (having been proven by your first question which requires the true answer) if it's uga, then uga should be yes..


now other way around, if you spotted the god of lies.. you should note the word he answered for the first question(since god of lies never tells the truth even though your first question requires a true answer), if it's uga .. then uga should be no, if it's booga, then booga should be no..


last and final question,

having one god eliminated from the choices since you already know who he is.. there'll be two situations

first: the two remaining should either be Chaos god or god of lies (if you spotted god of truth)
2nd: the two remaining should either be chaos god or god of truth (if you spotted god of lies)

now if you spotted first the god of truth here's the solution:

choose any of those remaining two unknown gods.. any of them.. then ask if he's the god of chaos..

first situation would be if you pointed out the chaos god, then the answer of the god of truth should be.. yes(knowing already which is yes or no refer to the 2nd step)

2nd situation would be if you pointed out the god of lies, then the answer of the god of truth should be no...

now the other way around if you spotted the god of lies

first situation if you pointed out the chaos god, then the answer of the god of lie should be.. no
second situation if you pointed out the god of truth, then the answer of the god of lie should be.. yes..


Then wollah!! the puzzle which is considered as the hardest puzzle of all time was solved..

in an hour...
Rogerio
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Sep7-12, 03:35 PM
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Quote Quote by FrostyRej View Post
...
Then wollah!! the puzzle which is considered as the hardest puzzle of all time was solved..
in an hour...
Well, it seems it's gonna be a little bit more...

Read the question at the fourth post, and the respective answer, at the fifth.
(once the problem is said to be a hard one, that question is almost unnecessary)

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Post #4:
Quote Quote by Pseudopod View Post
If you ask all three gods one question, does that count as asking one question or three?

Post #5:
Quote Quote by gravenewworld View Post
3. In the end you can only have a total of 3 responses.
FrostyRej
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Sep10-12, 07:21 PM
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Quote Quote by Rogerio View Post
Well, it seems it's gonna be a little bit more...

Read the question at the fourth post, and the respective answer, at the fifth.
(once the problem is said to be a hard one, that question is almost unnecessary)
Opss .. haha I think I misinterpreted the puzzle.. ok2! haha so I'll solve this later :)

thank you haha


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