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russ_watters
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Jun27-11, 09:56 PM
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Yes, I know I started a thread by the same title a while back. But....

I've always been against modern art. It's just not art. But now they've taken it to the logical extreme and instead of making stuff that isn't art and calling it art, they just aren't making anything and are still calling it art!
On its website, MONA describes itself as “an extravaganza of imagination, a museum that reminds us that we live in two worlds: the physical world of sight and the non-visible world of thought," which "redefines the concept of what is real." The museum goes on to add that "Although the artworks themselves are not visible, the descriptions open our eyes to a parallel world built of images and words. This world is not visible, but it is real, perhaps more real, in many ways, than the world of matter, and it is also for sale.


A variety of invisible pieces are available via Kickstarter, where $20 will yield an invisible sculpture by Praxis, and $50 will find a 19th century garment from James Franco’s imaginary film “Red Leaves” on your doorstep. Or rather, a card describing the 19th century garment from Franco’s film since the costume itself can be seen only in one's imagination.
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06...iref=allsearch

Imagine a statue of me naked. Now pay me $50.
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Jun27-11, 10:03 PM
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Quote Quote by russ_watters View Post
Yes, I know I started a thread by the same title a while back. But....

I've always been against modern art. It's just not art. But now they've taken it to the logical extreme and instead of making stuff that isn't art and calling it art, they just aren't making anything and are still calling it art! http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06...iref=allsearch

Imagine a statue of me naked. Now pay me $50.
Well, after the crackpot armageddon show I just watched on Nat Geo, why not pay for nothing?

OMG!!!! The insanity has to stop, right? I mean the insane appear to be taking over.
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Jun27-11, 10:05 PM
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Imagine a statue of me naked. Now pay me $50.
Are you sure that's legal? Given the age range of Physics Forum, you're selling invisible pornography to minors.

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Jun27-11, 10:06 PM
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It Finally Happened!

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Are you sure that's legal? Given the age range of Physics Forum, you're selling invisible pornography to minors.
It's art, not porn.
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Jun27-11, 10:11 PM
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I think a mentor should edit Russ's post to "Imagine a statue of me scantily clad. Now pay me $50."

Have to keep things PG-13, dontcha know.
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Jun27-11, 10:13 PM
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Amazing. They are actually earning revenue on this:

Presumably these invisible pieces aren’t purchased with invisible money, and while Franco’s rep confirmed to CNN that the actor did agree to contribute some non-visible art, he hasn't seen any money from the project, which so far has garnered $12,577 through Kickstarter.
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Jun27-11, 10:27 PM
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Imagine a statue of me naked. Now pay me $50.
I'd prolly pay to keep your nudity invisible.
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Jun27-11, 10:32 PM
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they got exactly what they were after, too. virality.

shame, it isn't even all that original as art goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3

as for modern art, and what is it? modern art is narrative. modern art is marketing. modern art is the child of art dealers scalping wealthy tools over aesthetically and culturally insignificant pieces. modern art is capitalism.
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Jun27-11, 10:48 PM
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This has to be an april fools joke.

Things this ludicrous never pan out to be real.

Or we're all being punked. Ridiculous.
zoobyshoe
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Jun27-11, 10:55 PM
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Quote Quote by Proton Soup View Post
they got exactly what they were after, too. virality.
"Virality"?

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shame, it isn't even all that original as art goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3
It's pretty recycled, yes. I can't help but think someone must have done the same thing during the "conceptual art" craze of the 60's and 70's:

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One of the first and most important things they (conceptual artists) questioned was the common assumption that the role of the artist was to create special kinds of material objects.
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As it is of the nature of paintings to be flat objects with canvas surfaces onto which colored pigment is applied, such things as figuration, 3-D perspective illusion and references to external subject matter were all found to be extraneous to the essence of painting, and ought to be removed.
Some have argued that conceptual art continued this "dematerialization" of art by removing the need for objects altogether...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_art
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as for modern art, and what is it? modern art is narrative. modern art is marketing. modern art is the child of art dealers scalping wealthy tools over aesthetically and culturally insignificant pieces. modern art is capitalism.
More importantly, it's over. It started to die in the 1980's and, aside from the occasional throwback like this, it's not practised or taught much. There's a definite movement toward art that demonstrates some obviously skill of one kind or another.
Proton Soup
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Jun27-11, 11:01 PM
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by virality i mean they got a link back. free publicity if the thing goes "viral" on the internet.

and yeah, "concepts". one finds them in things called books. books are generally a lot more work, tho. it's good to hear the concept is fading.
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Jun27-11, 11:12 PM
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I'd prolly pay to keep your nudity invisible.
Done.

You owe me $50.
KrisOhn
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Jun27-11, 11:27 PM
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Bloody hell, modern art sucks.

This is what you get for $10 000 off of the Kickstarter site:
By Praxis - Conceptual - Fresh Air -This is a unique piece, only this one is for sale. The air you are purchasing is like buying an endless tank of oxygen. No matter where you are, you always have the ability to take a breath of the most delicious, clean-smelling air that the earth can produce. Every breath you take gives you endless peace and health. This artwork is something to carry with you if you own it. Because wherever you are, you can imagine yourself getting the most beautiful taste of air that is from the mountain tops or fields or from the ocean side; it is an endless supply. Naming Rights- You get an entire wing of the museum named in your honor for this purchase. The owner of this artwork will receive a title card with a description of the piece to be mounted on your wall, and used when explaining the work. You will also get a letter of authentication, and a pdf copy of the catalog! For this category, you will also get invited to the after-party if you are in New York City in November of 2011. • Important! You are not buying a visible piece of art; you are buying the title and description card for the imagined artwork.
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Jun27-11, 11:29 PM
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Done.

You owe me $50.
Not yours, Russ's.

Send your pics to Zooby@shoemail.com
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Jun27-11, 11:31 PM
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Quote Quote by russ_watters View Post
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Imagine a statue of me naked. Now pay me $50.
Oh the humanity!


I'd give a $100 to get that image out of my mind!


There have been shysters in every generation, it is not a new thing, Perhaps we just have to many people with more dollars then cents.
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Jun27-11, 11:45 PM
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The standard definition of Conceptual Art back in the day was: art in which the concept of an artwork was, itself, the artwork. This was a subset of Modern Art, one weird branch of it.
for some reason, this sparked a memory of Stranger in a Strange Land. iirc, the greatest artists were dead martians who spent their eternities building artworks constructed entirely within their consciousnesses to share with other martians.
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Jun28-11, 12:21 AM
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Quote Quote by Proton Soup View Post
for some reason, this sparked a memory of Stranger in a Strange Land. iirc, the greatest artists were dead martians who spent their eternities building artworks constructed entirely within their consciousnesses to share with other martians.
Don't think I ever read it.
russ_watters
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Jun28-11, 05:29 AM
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I'd prolly pay to keep your nudity invisible.
Well you can imagine me clothed, but that's a much more complex piece and will cost you $100.


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