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| Apr10-12, 07:49 PM | #1 |
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J.J. Thomson's Experiment, Help!
Okay, here is the problem I was given.
In Thomson's experimental determination of the ratio m/e of the mass to the charge of an electron, in which the electrons were subjected to an electric field of intensity E and a magnetic field of intensity H, the equations m(d2x/dt2) + He(dy/dt) , m(d2y/dt2) - He(dx/dt) = 0 , were employed. If x=y=dx/dt=dy/dt=0 for t=0, show that the path is a cycloid whose parametric equations are: x = {Em/H2e}(1 - cos([He/m]t)) y = {Em/H2e}([He/m]t - sin([He/m]t)) I have solved the differential equation by substituting 1 for the constants and come out with: x = 1 - cost y = t - sint My problem is I can not figure out how to end up with the constants in the results. Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks. Steve. |
| Apr10-12, 08:16 PM | #2 |
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I'm sorry, I believe I have posted this in the wrong section, as I am asking for help.
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| Apr11-12, 07:43 AM | #3 |
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Why did you "substitute 1 for the constants"? It doesn't really simplify anything.
Differentiating the first equation one more time, [tex]m(d^3x/dt^3) + He(d^2y/dt^2) = 0[/tex] and we can substitute He dx/dt for [itex]d^2y/dt^2[/itex] so we have [tex]m(d^3x/dt^3)+ H^2e^2dx/dt= 0[/tex] That has characteristic equation [itex]mr^3+ H^2e^2r= r(mr^2+ H^2e^2)= 0[/itex] which has roots 0, (He/m)i and -(He/m)i so that the general solution is [tex]x(t)= C+ Dcos((He/m)t)+ E sin((He/m)t)[/tex] and then you can use [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}= He \frac{dx}{dt}[/tex] to find y. |
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