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Jul3-12, 11:58 AM   #13516

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Japan Earthquake: nuclear plants


Translation:

3/4

4/4
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Jul3-12, 03:10 PM   #13517

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in this document linked above (thanks again Tsutsuji )
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02y.pdf

there's two red circles on bottom left photo.
800 % is about all the expansion it'll stand, and i dont see what is significant there.
Except that a lot of debris has been cleared.

is there anything i'm missing by my inability to read the captions ?

old jim
Jul3-12, 03:29 PM   #13518
 
No you aren't missing anything, debris removal is all its about. In this case they finally dealt with the roof debris thats been dangling down there, having previously cleared away rather large quantities of debris & broken buildings from the area below.

Since I was asking about progress at this reactor the other day, I am very grateful for the translation above which gives us a sense of timescale, as well as these new images.
Jul3-12, 03:32 PM   #13519
 
Thanks very much, thats the one, not sure if there are any others.

Anyway I guess we aren't going to learn much more about this for a long time, and there is little else that I can use right now to build on any theories in this regard. I suppose alternative possibilities are core material washing down into S/C or torus room later, or something related to wet venting.

The next thing we might learn about reactor 1 is the state of the TIP room, and updated measurements of previously inspected southern parts of the first floor, as they are due to do the robot thing there on wednesday according to this handout:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20703_01-e.pdf
Jul4-12, 08:37 AM   #13520

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The 7th mid long term meeting was held on 25 June: http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02.html

3-2 Treatment of accumulated water
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02n.pdf Progress status of ground water bypass study
This document was already translated into English by Tepco in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf pages 4/17 to 8/17 (only the date is different [25 June instead of 18 June])

Quote by tsutsuji View Post
The 7th mid long term meeting was held on 25 June: http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02.html

3-2 Treatment of accumulated water
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf Subdrain purification test report
Most of this document was already translated into English by Tepco in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf pages 12/17 to 17/17:

http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 2/7 content similar with http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 14/17 "Complete the pumping test" was achieved on 15 June for unit 1 and 19 June for unit 2.
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 3/7 translated in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 15/17
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 4/7 translated in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 13/17
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 5/7 content similar with http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 14/17
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 6/7 translated in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 12/17
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02k.pdf 7/7 translated in http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushi...20618_05-e.pdf 17/17
Jul5-12, 01:19 AM   #13521
 
The English-language executive summary of The Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission was just released a few minutes ago. You can download it from here:

http://naiic.go.jp/en/
Jul5-12, 01:02 PM   #13522
 
Quote by Azby View Post
The English-language executive summary of The Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission was just released a few minutes ago. You can download it from here:

http://naiic.go.jp/en/
Thanks. Of particular relevance to the discussion of technical matters is the following from page 31:

The government-run investigation committee’s interim report, NISA’s “Technical Findings,” and specifically TEPCO’s interim report, all concluded that the loss of emergency AC power—that definitely impacted the progression of the accident— “was caused by the flooding from the tsunami.” TEPCO’s report says the first wave of the tsunami reached the site at 15:27 and the second at 15:35. However, these are the times when the wave gauge set 1.5km offshore detected the waves, not the times of when the tsunami hit the plant. This suggests that at least the loss of emergency power supply A at Unit 1 might not have been caused by flooding. Based on this, some basic questions need to be logically explained before making a final determination that flooding was the cause of the station blackout.

4. Several TEPCO vendor workers who were working on the fourth floor of the nuclear reactor building at Unit 1 at the time of the earthquake witnessed a water leak on the same floor, which houses two large tanks for the isolation condenser (IC) and the pip- ing for IC. The Commission believes that this was not due to water sloshing out of the spent fuel pool on the fifth floor. However, since we cannot go inside the facility and perform an on-site inspection, the source of the water remains unconfirmed.

5. The isolation condensers (A and B2 systems) of Unit 1 were shut down automatically at 14:52, but the operator of Unit 1 manually stopped both IC systems 11 minutes lat- er. TEPCO has consistently maintained that the explanation for the manual suspen- sion was that “it was judged that the per-hour reactor coolant temperature excursion rate could not be kept within 55 degrees (Celsius), which is the benchmark provided by the operational manual.” The government-led investigation report, as well as the government’s report to IAEA, states the same reason. However, according to several workers involved in the manual suspension of IC who responded to our investiga- tion, they stopped IC to check whether coolant was leaking from IC and other pipes because the reactor pressure was falling rapidly. While the operator’s explanations are reasonable and appropriate, TEPCO’s explanation is irrational.

6. There is no evidence that the safety relief (SR) valve was opened at Unit 1, though this should have taken place in the case of an accident. (Such records are available for Units 2 and 3.) We found that the sound of the SR valve opening for Unit 2 was heard at the Central Control Room and at Unit 2, but no one working at Unit 1 heard the sound of the Unit 1 SR valve opening. It is therefore a possibility that the SR valve might not have worked in Unit 1. In this case, a minor LOCA caused by the seismic motion could have taken place in Unit 1.
Jul6-12, 02:45 AM   #13523

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25 June 2012 government-Tokyo Electric mid and long term response committee, steering committee (7th meeting)

3-1 Cooling by closed loop water injection
http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120625_02g.pdf Unit 2 alternative thermometers installation progress status
1) Previous related topics:

1 March 2012 report ( http://www.physicsforums.com/showpos...ostcount=12465 part 1, http://www.physicsforums.com/showpos...ostcount=12485 part 2, http://www.physicsforums.com/showpos...ostcount=12492 part 3)

Quote by tsutsuji View Post

28 March 2012 government-Tokyo Electric mid and long term response committee, steering committee (4th meeting)

http://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuc...120328_02f.pdf page 7 is about the revision of priorities for installation of alternative thermometers. The high radiation routes are cancelled. What is left is Jet Pump system B X-40C/D in area B with priority 1, SLC differential pressure sensor X-51 in area C with priority 2, and TIP in area D as priority (1) with a note. The note says: "there is a possibility that the TIP guide tubes are surviving in the outer surroundings of the core (see page 8). →If undamaged TIP guide tubes are left, they can be promoted to priority 1." The figure in the left part of page 8 shows a yellow area where surviving TIP tubes are believed to exist.
23 April 2012 report: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...78#post3939578 (insertion and freezing mock-ups)

28 May 2012 government-Tokyo Electric mid and long term response committee, steering committee (6th meeting): http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...rs#post3941037 Results of the surveys on location concerning the environment improvement for the purpose of installing alternative thermometers in unit 2's RPV

01 June 2012 videos:

http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/201...20601_02e.html "Decontamination around the truck bay door at Unit 2, Fukushima Daiichi NPS" (released on 1 June 2012)

http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/201...20601_01e.html "Mock-up test to check the insertability of the alternative thermometer at Unit 2" (released on 1 June 2012)

2) Translation:

01/12

02/12

03/12
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unit 2 alternative thermometers 01of12.png   unit 2 alternative thermometers 02of12.png   unit 2 alternative thermometers 03of12.png  
Jul6-12, 02:51 AM   #13524

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Translation:

04/12

05/12

06/12
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unit 2 alternative thermometers 04of12.png   unit 2 alternative thermometers 05of12.png   unit 2 alternative thermometers 06of12.png  
Jul6-12, 02:54 AM   #13525

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Translation:

07/12

08/12

09/12
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Jul6-12, 02:56 AM   #13526

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Translation:

10/12

11/12

12/12
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Jul7-12, 03:17 AM   #13527
 
Unit 4 top is almost clean now:
Jul7-12, 10:26 AM   #13528
 
Your image link isn't working for me but you can see the image here, and click it to see a higher resolution version:

http://enformable.com/2012/07/photo-...ebris-removal/

The removable concrete cap sections are visible in their storage positions under the yellow containment cap and to the south of it.

Some of the groundwork preparing the foundations for the fuel removal structure are partially visible south of the building.
Jul8-12, 01:30 AM   #13529
 
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/07/r...=Google+Reader

Can someone confirm this?
Jul8-12, 02:29 AM   #13530
 
Analyses of core melt and re-melt in the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...48.2011.636537
Jul8-12, 06:25 AM   #13531
 
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Analyses of core melt and re-melt in the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...48.2011.636537
"Re-melting of core materials: 21 March 01:25 21–25 March"
and
"This still from film footage released by Tokyo Electric Power Co. shows black smoke billowing from the crippled Fukushima I nuclear power plant in northeastern Japan, March 22."
from:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/03...om-Fukushima-I
Jul8-12, 11:54 AM   #13532
 
Quote by a.ua. View Post
Analyses of core melt and re-melt in the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...48.2011.636537
Thats a rather interesting study.

To look at something other than the later core remelt possibilities for a moment, Im rather interested in the reports suggestion that unlike reactors 1 & 3, the initial core melting at reactor 2 didn't result in a runaway zirconium-steam reaction, due to a lack of steam generation in the core.

This would certainly be an interesting alternative explanation as to why there was no hydrogen explosion at reactor 2. But I haven't quite got my head around the reasons this report thinks such a reaction did not occur. Could someone take a look at the report and attempt to explain this to me?

Many thanks.
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