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| Aug2-12, 05:01 PM | #1 |
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Conjecture Regarding rotation of a set by a sequence of rational angles.
Consider the following sequence, where the elements are rational numbers mulriplied by [itex]\pi[/itex]:
[itex] (\alpha_{i}) = \hspace{2 mm}\pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/8,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/16,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/8,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/32,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/8,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/16,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/8,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} 3\pi/64,\hspace{2 mm} \pi/4,\hspace{2 mm} \cdots[/itex] Let [itex]K \subset ℝ^{2}[/itex] be a compact set. Also let [itex]R_{\alpha_{i}}[/itex] denote the rotation by [itex]\alpha_{i}[/itex]. Suppose [itex]R_{\alpha_{i}}K = \hspace{2 mm} K[/itex] for each [itex]\alpha_{i} \in (\alpha_{i})[/itex]. Question: Is it true that for all [itex]\theta \in [0, 2\pi)[/itex] [itex]R_{\theta}K = \hspace{2 mm} K[/itex]. Note: If instead we had the sequence [itex](n\alpha)[/itex] where [itex]\alpha[/itex] is an irrational number, it is trivial that the conjecture holds. This is trivial due to the following fact from the study of continued fractions: Given any real number on a circle, it can be approximated arbitrarily close by multiples of an irrational number. But if [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a rational number this doesn't hold since after a finite number of rotations you will get back to where you started from. However in the question above we don't have rotations by a fixed rational number and the answer is not immediate! |
| Aug2-12, 10:00 PM | #2 |
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There are some things not making sense to me in this question.
Most obviously, the sequence clearly consists of irrationals, so I guess you mean rational multiples of pi. Secondly, I don't see any significance in showing it as a sequence, including repeats. It seems to be used only as a set - so why the repeats? That said, if I've understood the question... K is closed under rotations by 3nπ.2-m, for all positive integers m, n. Given θ, let xi be the bits of the binary fraction expressing θ/3π. From this you can construct a sequence of rotations converging on θ. |
| Aug3-12, 09:17 AM | #3 |
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I'm preforming a symmetrization on the set K and the algorithm is such that it produces the above sequence. I got confused myself because once I got the sequence, I thought the rule is that I must follow the sequence to get arbitrary close to a θ. But you're absolutely right. Once I show [itex] R_{\alpha_{i}}K = K[/itex] for each [itex] \alpha_{i}[/itex], I'm done. This is because of the role that "n" is playing in your solution. When I get a little too excited I need someone to check I'm not doing something stupid. Thanks for the comment! |
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