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Need help proving limit does not exist!

 
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Sep21-12, 12:13 AM   #18
 

Need help proving limit does not exist!


Quote by SammyS View Post
I have fixed your Latex above, and repeat it below, so you can see the code.
[itex](|x|^{a+(bc/d)}) /(2(|x|^c))[/itex]


Now as a more readable fraction:

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{|x|^{a+(bc/d)}}{2(|x|^c)}[/itex]

Write that expression using |x| only once.

Remember, [itex]\displaystyle \frac{x^R}{x^T}=x^{R-T}\ .[/itex]
I got this after: [itex](|x|^{a+(bc/d)-c}) /{2}[/itex]
expanding the exponents I have [itex]\displaystyle \frac{acd+bc^2-c^2d}{cd}[/itex]
and given [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd}<=0[/itex] which is 1/c of the exponent..
So then |x| has an exponent negative so limit d.n.e right? cause limit of 1/|x| as x->0 d.n.e
Sep21-12, 12:26 AM   #19
 
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I got this after: [itex](|x|^{a+(bc/d)-c}) /{2}[/itex]
expanding the exponents I have [itex]\displaystyle \frac{acd+bc^2-c^2d}{cd}[/itex]
and given [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd}<=0[/itex] which is 1/c of the exponent..
So then |x| has an exponent negative so limit d.n.e right? cause limit of 1/|x| as x->0 d.n.e
Actually, that's [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}\le 0[/itex]

What if [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}=0\ ?[/itex]


Now, maybe you can adjust the path so that the exponent is always zero.
Sep21-12, 12:40 AM   #20
 
Quote by SammyS View Post
Actually, that's [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}\le 0[/itex]

What if [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}=0\ ?[/itex]


Now, maybe you can adjust the path so that the exponent is always zero.
Oh, I see. Since [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}> \displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd}[/itex] then does that mean it HAS to = 0? If it's 0 then lim is 1/2
Sep21-12, 08:52 AM   #21
 
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expanding the exponents I have [itex]\displaystyle \frac{acd+bc^2-c^2d}{cd}[/itex]
and given [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd}<=0[/itex] which is 1/c of the exponent..
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Let's go back to the exponent:
[itex]\displaystyle
\frac{acd+bc^2-c^2d}{cd}=\frac{c(ad+bc-cd)}{cd}=\frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}\ .
[/itex]
I have no idea as to why you multiplied that by 1/c .


Quote by mathie_geek View Post
Oh, I see. Since [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}> \displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd}[/itex] then does that mean it HAS to = 0? If it's 0 then lim is 1/2
Unless you meant to say that "a,b,c,d are positive integers numbers" (emphasizing integers, rather than numbers), the following inequality
[itex]\displaystyle
\frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}>\frac{ad+bc-cd}{cd} \ \ \text{ is not true.}[/itex]
The number, c, might very well be less than 1 if a, b, c, and d are not required to be integers.

All that I said was, if a/c + b/d ≤ 1, then [itex]\displaystyle \frac{ad+bc-cd}{d}\le 0[/itex].

If you choose the case of it being an equality, (choose the = sign), then the limit is defined, with said limit being 1/2.

However, that's far from being the general case for this expression.
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