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Oct30-12, 06:06 AM   #1
 

Schwarz inequality is Cauchy–Schwarz inequality?


I found many information showed Schwarz inequality and Cauchy–Schwarz inequality are same on books and internet, but my teacher's material shows that:
Schwarz inequality:
[itex]\left\|[x,y]\right\|\leq\left\|x\right\|+\left\|y\right\|[/itex]

Cauchy–Schwarz inequality:
[itex]\left\|[x,y]\right\|\leq\left\|x\right\|\left\|y\right\|[/itex]


They seem to be different on material, and I had sent email to teacher but having no reply.
Therefore my question is "Are Schwarz inequality and Cauchy–Schwarz inequality same?"
 
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Oct30-12, 08:58 AM   #2
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Those do not look like inequalities to me. And the first one looks wrong, independent of the inequality sign.
Maybe you mean ##||x+y|| \leq ||x||+||y||##, but that is the triangle inequality. It follows from the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality if the norm is induced by a scalar product.
 
Oct30-12, 09:56 AM   #3
 
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Those do not look like inequalities to me. And the first one looks wrong, independent of the inequality sign.
Maybe you mean ##||x+y|| \leq ||x||+||y||##, but that is the triangle inequality. It follows from the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality if the norm is induced by a scalar product.
Sorry about used wrong symbol, and I have modified.
I know triangle inequality.

But the question still is "are Schwarz inequality and Cauchy–Schwarz inequality same?"


Thanks for your reply.
 
Oct30-12, 12:08 PM   #4
 
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Schwarz inequality is Cauchy–Schwarz inequality?


Your Schwarz inequality simply seems false. In [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex], we have [itex][x,y]=xy[/itex]. But it is certainly not the case that

[tex]|2\cdot 3|\leq |2|+|3|[/tex]
 
Oct30-12, 04:43 PM   #5
 
It looks like a typo to me. The books and the internet are right I think.
 
Oct30-12, 08:35 PM   #6
 
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Your Schwarz inequality simply seems false. In [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex], we have [itex][x,y]=xy[/itex]. But it is certainly not the case that

[tex]|2\cdot 3|\leq |2|+|3|[/tex]
Well, do you mean that:
Schwarz inequality
= Cauchy–Schwarz inequality
= [itex]\left\|[x,y]\right\|\leq\left\|x\right\|\left\|y\right\|[/itex]?

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It looks like a typo to me. The books and the internet are right I think.
I think so either, thus I want to figure it out.


Both of your answers are helpful, thanks.
 
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