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| Feb5-13, 08:50 PM | #1 |
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A specific method of characteristics problem
In my previous PDE class we did nothing with method of chars. Now I am assigned one in a higher class, but all the examples I find online are not helpful for a particular problem I have.
du/dt+a*du/dx=f(t,x) with u(0,x)=0 and f(t,x)=1 if -1<=x<=1, and f(t,x)= 0 otherwise Differences between this and typical examples I see in my PDE book and online: 1. I rarely see non-homogeneous ones. 2. Initial condition is NEVER equal to 0 in any example I've ever seen. 3. The solution I'm supposed to "show" is piecewise defined in 5 parts. I've seen a couple examples whose solution is defined into 2 parts, sometimes. But 5? Please be gentle. |
| Feb5-13, 09:28 PM | #2 |
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2. shouldn't matter - just plug the zero in to the general solution like you would any other number. 3. makes no difference - you just have more steps to do. Do it the same way - just divide the DE into the different regions. What is the actual problem you have to solve You've seen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_...ntial_equation |
| Feb5-13, 09:42 PM | #3 |
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Can you solve the following ODE, subject to the initial condition u = 0 at t = 0?
[tex]\frac{Du}{Dt}=f(t,x_0+at)[/tex] where x0 is a constant. |
| Feb6-13, 12:46 PM | #4 |
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A specific method of characteristics problem
Obviously I'm missing something fairly rudimentary.
Simon: I wrote the problem I have to solve. du/dt+a*du/dx=f(t,x) with u(0,x)=0 and f(t,x)=1 if -1<=x<=1, and f(t,x)= 0 otherwise If I write out the equation for each region, I get 2 equations. Chestermiller: When you use capital D, is that the same as an ordinary derivative? I really don't see how to proceed. |
| Feb6-13, 02:15 PM | #5 |
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| Feb6-13, 04:06 PM | #6 |
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I'm lost. Could you walk me through this?
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| Feb6-13, 06:11 PM | #7 |
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Chet |
| Feb6-13, 06:28 PM | #8 |
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Do I 'know how'? I guess not really.
Ok, let me put my attempt to 'solve' this. problem: ∂u/∂t+a*∂u/∂x=f(t,x) with f(t,x)=1 if -1<=x<=1 and f= 0 otherwise u(0,x)=0 For whatever reason, (I read this a long time ago) I set u(x,t)=U([itex]\tau[/itex], [itex]\xi[/itex]) with [itex]\xi[/itex] = x-at and [itex]\tau[/itex] = t which leads to, after partial derivatives, ∂u/∂[itex]\tau[/itex] = f(t,x) Now integrate and either get u=[itex]\tau[/itex] for -1<=x<=1 or get 0 for x values other than that. So what am I missing? |
| Feb6-13, 07:57 PM | #9 |
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Yes. You're very close. So you have ∂u/∂[itex]\tau[/itex] = f(t,x). Now, you substitute [itex]x=\xi+at[/itex] to get [tex](\frac{\partial u}{\partial t})_\xi=f(t,\xi+at)[/tex] Now you take any value of [itex]\xi[/itex], say [itex]\xi=-5[/itex] at time t = 0 (x = -5), and start integrating with respect to t (at constant [itex]\xi=-5[/itex]), subject to the initial condition u = 0. So, in this example, u(x,t) = 0 until x = -5 + at = -1. That would be t = 4/a. After that u(t,x) = u(t,-5+at) = (t - 4/a) until x = -5 + at = +1 That would be at t = 6/a. After that u(t,x)=u(t,-5+at) = 2/a for all subsequent times along the line x = -5 + at. So, integrating along the line x = -5 + at, you have: [itex]u=0[/itex] for [itex]t\leqslant 4/a[/itex] [itex]u=t-4/a[/itex] for [itex]4/a\leqslant t\leqslant 6/a[/itex] [itex]u=2/a[/itex] for [itex]6/a\leqslant t[/itex] You can do this for different values of [itex]\xi[/itex]. |
| Feb7-13, 04:36 AM | #10 |
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I have to say I still do not understand several aspects. What exactly is meant by the subscript [itex]\xi[/itex] and why is "u=0 until x=-1"
Further, this does not appear to be the solution we're supposed to show. :( |
| Feb7-13, 08:43 AM | #11 |
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You are integrating with respect to t along a line x - at=constant. The constant is the value of x at t = 0. Anywhere you start integrating to the left of x = -1 at time = 0, the integrand f(t,x) is equal to zero. You will find that, throughout the entire region x < -1, the solution for u is going to be u = 0 for all t. But, once your line crosses over into the region -1<x<+1, your integrand f(t,x) suddenly jumps up to 1 (and stays there until your line crosses out of the region again at x = 1). I'm afraid I'm not explaining things very well. Hopefully, I said enough to give you the gist of what is happening. If not, all I can say is I did my best. Chet |
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