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| Feb8-05, 04:11 PM | #1 |
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I have no idea how to do this question, can anyone provide some help?
Suppose f is differentiable with derivative f '(x) = (1+x^3) ^(1/2). If g = f^-1, show that g ''(x) = 3/2 g(x)^2. |
| Feb8-05, 06:48 PM | #2 |
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These sort of problems are fun, inverse calculus.
Write f(x) = int[0,x, (1+t^3) ^(1/2),dt] Set the integral equal to u so that you have: f(x) = u Take the inverse of both sides: x = g(u) Differentiate wrt x, using the chain rule: (dg/du)(du/dx) = 1 Using FTC, du/dx = (1+x^3) ^(1/2) Then dg/du = (1+x^3) ^(-1/2) but remember x =g(u) So g' = (1+g^3) ^(-1/2) differentiate again (remember to use the chain rule): g'' = (-1/2)(3g)(g')(1+g^3) ^(-3/2) g'' = (-1/2)(3g)(1+g^3) ^(-1/2))(1+g^3) ^(-3/2) Which simplifies to your expression. I am sorry to have deprived you of solving this wonderful problem, but it is pretty difficult to get started on a problem like this if you do not know where to begin. I invented this method to to derive an expression for the integral int[0,x, 1/t, dt] .
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| Feb8-05, 08:29 PM | #3 |
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wow, thank you so much, you are amazing
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| Feb8-05, 09:38 PM | #4 |
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if f '(x) = dy/dx = (1+x^3) ^(1/2). where x = g(y).
If g = f^-1, show that g ''(x) = 3/2 g(x)^2. \\ this seems incorrect, as shown by the previous post, which also seems however slightly incorrect. i.e. dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx). so dx/dy = (1+x^3)^(-1/2). so d^2x/dy^2, by chain rule, = (-1/2)(1+x^3)^(-3/2) (3x^2) dx/dy = (-1/2)(1+x^3)^(-3/2) (3x^2)(1+x^3)^(-1/2) = (-1/2) (1+x^3)^(-2) (3x^2) = (-3/2)[1+g(y)^3)^(-2)] (g(y)^2). (the previous post omitted the power 2.) in particular all the integration in the previous post is entirely superfluous. now i may easily be missing something here, but my problem is that now I do not see how this simplifies to (3/2) [g(y)]^2, since it does not appear to me that [1+g(y)^3)^(-2)] = -1, i.e. that 1 + x^3 = -1, i.e.that x = cuberoot(-2), for all x. what am i missing? |
| Feb9-05, 06:09 AM | #5 |
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You are correct, Mathwonk, as far as I'm concerned: I independently reached exactly the same answer as you.
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| Feb9-05, 10:47 AM | #6 |
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thanks, Matt; I guess you are kindly giving me credit for what I meant to write, even if one of my braces is misplaced in the last line.
I probably meant [1+g(y)^3)]^(-2) = -1, so the left side is a square while the right side is negative. the point is the problem was probably miscopied from the source. |
| Feb9-05, 01:01 PM | #7 |
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we had the same issue, and it roughly stated all x satisfied some polynomial relation, i didn't check the details - perhaps i should stop using the word exactly when i don't mean it...
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| Feb9-05, 08:22 PM | #8 |
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I assumed you quit reading my details as soon as you saw we raised the same point and found the same result.
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