What is the constant for ellipses and how does it relate to triquametric motion?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a constant for ellipses and its relation to triquametric motion. Participants explore the mathematical properties of ellipses, including comparisons to circles and references to number theory, while also touching on broader philosophical implications.

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  • Some participants assert that there is a constant for ellipses analogous to Pi for circles, which defines the relationships between the structural parts of an ellipse.
  • Others challenge the mathematical rigor of the claims, suggesting that the discussion lacks substantive mathematical content.
  • A participant proposes that the perigee, soliton, vector, and apogee of an ellipse follow a Fibonacci-like sequence, contingent on the definition of an elliptical constant.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the use of terms like "Fibonacci-like" and question the clarity and substantiation of the claims made.
  • There is a reiteration that the area of an ellipse is given by the formula π*a*b, but some argue that the elliptical constant is not Pi and suggest it is an integer of the first order.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the existence or definition of a constant for ellipses, nor on the mathematical validity of the claims made. Multiple competing views remain, with some advocating for the significance of the proposed relationships and others questioning their mathematical foundation.

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There are unresolved mathematical steps and definitions, particularly regarding the terms used (e.g., "soliton," "Fibonacci-like sequence") and their implications in the context of ellipses. The discussion reflects a mix of mathematical inquiry and philosophical speculation.

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Readers interested in the mathematical properties of ellipses, the intersection of mathematics and philosophy, or those exploring unconventional theories in number theory may find this discussion relevant.

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There is a constant for ellipses, as Pi is a constant for circles, such that the relationship of every structural part, to one another, for any ellipse, is constant.

This relationship of the structural parts of an ellipse is the crux, with relativity, of triquametric motion that underlies the motion of all phenomena. And, which logically rationalizes the enigmas of standard paradigms, including number theory, to reconcile with observation.
 
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Ooh boy, this one could be interesting...
 
This touches upon real fundamentals

matt grime said:
Ooh boy, this one could be interesting...

You have no idea . . .

This touches upon the real fundamentals of science, theolgy, and philosophy.

You might see the last two posts (Hurkyl/Brunardot) at NUMBER THEORY: Thread - "Is -1 a prime number?"
 
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brunardot said:
You might see the last two posts (Hurkyl/Brunardot) at NUMBER THEORY: Thread - "Is -1 a prime number?"
If this is going to be based entirely upon that post, this is sufficient reason to close this thread as it stands right now. At this point there is no mathematical content to this thread, brunardot, and its continued existence in this section is a result of patience.

If you do not make a mathematical point in your next post, this thread will be moved or closed.
 
Looks like someone's got number theory confused with numerology.
 
brunardot said:
There is a constant for ellipses, as Pi is a constant for circles, such that the relationship of every structural part, to one another, for any ellipse, is constant.

This relationship of the structural parts of an ellipse is the crux, with relativity, of triquametric motion that underlies the motion of all phenomena. And, which logically rationalizes the enigmas of standard paradigms, including number theory, to reconcile with observation.
Would you like to write something that makes some mathematical sense?
 
Yes, it's pi. If an ellipse has axes of length a and b, then the area is pi*a*b. The onlyh constant that is as closely associated with ellipses as pi is with circles is pi itself!
 
So much for Intellectual Inquiry

Gokul43201 said:
If this is going to be based entirely upon that post, this is sufficient reason to close this thread as it stands right now. At this point there is no mathematical content to this thread, brunardot, and its continued existence in this section is a result of patience.

If you do not make a mathematical point in your next post, this thread will be moved or closed.
What has happened to intellectual inquiry in the academic disciplines?

Where are specific questions; rather than spurious threats?

Does Matt Grime have it wrong?

Let’s get to some “mathematical content.” I select the Fibonacci numbers. And as for making a point: I submit that the perigee, soliton (half the focal lengthl), vector (line from the end of the major diameter to the end of the minor diameter), and apogee are always a Fibonacci-like sequence for any ellipse; and, when any ellipse is defined by the elliptical constant, if the perigee is an integer all of the above parts are integers. And when the ellipse is a circle (a special ellipse) the perigee, soliton, vector, and apogee begin the revised Fibonacci sequence, which is a sequence of a more general unlimited series.

The Fibonacci sequence regardless of beginning with zero or one is a portion of a sequence of said general series.

”If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.”
William Blake [1757-1827]
The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, 1790-1793
 
Mathematical sense

Zurtex said:
Would you like to write something that makes some mathematical sense?

My statements are always mathematically provable.
 
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As to Pi

HallsofIvy said:
Yes, it's pi. If an ellipse has axes of length a and b, then the area is pi*a*b. The onlyh constant that is as closely associated with ellipses as pi is with circles is pi itself!

The elliptical constant is not Pi.

It is an integer of the first order.
 
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brunardot said:
What has happened to intellectual inquiry in the academic disciplines?

it is alive and well

Where are specific questions; rather than spurious threats?

and this is a spruios therad

Does Matt Grime have it wrong?

what wrong?

Let’s get to some “mathematical content.” I select the Fibonacci numbers.


for why? i select miss norway 1975...

And as for making a point: I submit that the perigee,


perigee? closest point in an orbit?

soliton (half the focal lengthl),

soliton? a wave?

vector (line from the end of the major diameter to the end of the minor diameter), and apogee are always a Fibonacci-like sequence for any ellipse;

fibonacci like? undefined terms, unsubastantiated claims, what more is there to say?

and, when any ellipse is defined by the elliptical constant, if the perigee is an integer all of the above parts are integers. And when the ellipse is a circle (a special ellipse) the perigee, soliton, vector, and apogee begin the revised Fibonacci sequence, which is a sequence of a more general unlimited series.

The Fibonacci sequence regardless of beginning with zero or one is a portion of a sequence of said general series.

hmm, again no mathematical content. it may have mathematical words in it but that doesn't mean anything.
 

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