Should it be upside or downside

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of the triangle symbol in the Helmholtz Equation, specifically whether it should be oriented upwards or downwards. Participants explore the notation used in mathematical expressions and its implications for clarity and consistency.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the triangle symbol in the Helmholtz Equation should be represented, providing attachments for reference.
  • Another participant suggests that both orientations are valid, noting that nabla squared is sometimes depicted with the sharp side up.
  • Some participants express a preference for the downward orientation, stating that they have always seen it that way.
  • Another participant prefers the nabla notation (\nabla^2) over the triangle (\Delta), arguing it clarifies the operation being performed and avoids the need for multiple symbols.
  • There is a clarification that \nabla^2 and \Delta are equivalent, but not \nabla and \Delta, indicating a nuanced understanding of the symbols involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the preferred orientation of the triangle symbol, with multiple competing views expressed regarding the notation.

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Some assumptions about the familiarity with mathematical notation and the context of the Helmholtz Equation may not be explicitly stated, which could affect the understanding of the discussion.

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how does the triangle symbol in Helmholtz Equation should be?
is it like the attach file in here.
 
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or like this attach file.

btw, can you attach more then one file in here?
 
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If I remember correctly, then they are both the same. nabla squared is sometimes denoted as a triangle with the sharp side up.

So:

[tex]\nabla^2 \equiv \Delta[/tex]
 
I've always seen it point down.

Njorl
 
I also usually see [itex]\nabla^2[/itex]. But [itex]\Delta[/itex] is perfectly valid.

Personally I prefer [itex]\nabla^2[/itex]. It makes it more clear what operation you're actually performing. Plus it help avoid defining a new symbol for every single mathematical operation. And [itex]\Delta[/itex] is already used enough anyway.

In the Helmholtz equation in particular [itex]\nabla^2[/itex] looks better.
[itex]\nabla^2\psi+k^2\psi=0[/itex] is more symmetric.
 
loop quantum gravity: note well it is [tex]\nabla^2[/tex] and [tex]\Delta[/tex] that are the same not [tex]\nabla[/tex]and [tex]\Delta[/tex]!
 

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