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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications and significance of Saddam Hussein's capture, touching on themes of political accountability, historical context, and the potential impact on U.S. foreign policy and Iraqi nationalism. The conversation includes various opinions on the relevance of the event and its broader consequences.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the significance of Saddam's capture, suggesting it may not alter the course of U.S. involvement in Iraq.
  • One participant argues that a fair trial for Saddam could reveal complicity from U.S. officials in his past actions, indicating a complex historical relationship.
  • Another participant reflects on the nature of insurgency, suggesting it may represent a democratic movement uniting different Iraqi factions against foreign intervention.
  • There are references to cultural artifacts, such as the movie "Operation Red Dawn," to draw parallels between historical narratives and current events.
  • Some participants acknowledge the strength of arguments presented by others, indicating a recognition of differing viewpoints.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the significance of Saddam's capture or its implications for Iraq and U.S. policy. Disagreement exists regarding the relevance of historical context and the nature of insurgency.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views are influenced by their interpretations of historical events and political dynamics, with some assumptions about the motivations behind U.S. actions and the nature of Iraqi resistance remaining unexamined.

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My humble apologies to those people involved in the "Saddam Capture" discussion.

I am also sorry for creating havoc with my posts and opinions.

"United we stand . . . "

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Although I do not agree with Adam's opinion, I respect his right to say it.
 
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Both parties made some pretty strong arguments.
 
Damn, I missed the whole thing. I'm sure I could have pissed somebody off one way or the other. :frown:

Njorl
 
Originally posted by Njorl
Damn, I missed the whole thing. I'm sure I could have pissed somebody off one way or the other. :frown:

Njorl
There'll be plenty of other chances, I'm sure. :smile:
 
ZEROI don't think this matters, even if it is true. Would the U.S. cease to exist if you kill Bush? This is a blip on the radar, frankly. Nothing will change either way, except to possibly escalate the violence.
If Saddam has a fair trial of any kind, it will come out that Rummy and Bush Sr. & Co. & REAGAN supported him during most of his war crimes, giving him bombs, chemical weapons and so forth. Saddam believes he is truly innocent because Rummy gave him the O.K. to use chemical weapons at his own discretion. The invasion of Kuwait was pre-approved by Bush Sr. administration.

When I first learned that they'd captured Saddam, during "Saturday Night Live," I didn't believe it at all & thought they must be lying about it. But obviously it is him. Unfortunately I think that the insurgency is inherently democratic as most rebel movements are, uniting Iraqi Shiites and Sunis against the invaders.

Ironic that it was "Operation Red Dawn," the movie based upon Russian invasion of Afghanistan (set in America), where the Americans (interloping for the Taliban in Afghanistan!) fight a guerilla war against the Russian invaders. The movie was banned in parts of Africa and Europe as anti-communist propaganda.

Saddam's capture is ultimately of dubious relevance, as Iraqi nationalists will not capitulate to American designs on their natural resources.
 

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