Solving a Simple Physics Question: Mass of Bridge Needed to Find Rope Tension

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a bridge, a rope, and a hanging mass. The scenario describes a uniform bridge of 6 meters in length, supported at one end by a frictionless hinge, with a rope attached to the other end that supports a 110 kg mass at an angle of 30 degrees. The original poster seeks to understand how to determine the mass of the bridge necessary to find the tension in the rope.

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  • Participants discuss the equilibrium of the system and the relationship between the tension in the rope and the weight of the hanging mass. Questions arise regarding the implications of the frictionless hinge at point B and whether the mass of the bridge should be considered in the calculations. There is also a mention of torque and how it relates to the forces acting on the bridge.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into the mechanics of the system, such as the role of torque and the forces involved, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the setup and assumptions. No consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the need to consider the mass of the bridge and the effects of the hinge. The original poster expresses feelings of difficulty and seeks reassurance about their understanding of the concepts involved.

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hi everyone...

I am new comer and new for phsyics..

I have a problem for the following question.


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/ mass
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A B

From point A to B is a simple bridge mad from uniform 6 m long platorm. A rope of negligible mass is attached to other end point A. this rope passess over a smaill frictionless pulley and supports a 110 kg mass on its other end. The angle between the rope and the bridge is 30 deg.

would u let me know the mass of the bridge is necessary to consdier to find the tension of the rope ??

I know it is a very simple question...but it is hard for me ..a poor old man...

thanks a lot..
 
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I don't fully understand the problem, but if the system is in equilibrium the tension in the rope must equal the weight of the hanging mass.
 
the question said that the bridge at point B is frictionless hinge and mass is 110 kg.

is it mean there is a frictionless support at point B ?? if yes...i think i shall consider the mg of the bridge and the reaction force at point B

is right ??

thanks..
 
Yes, a "frictionless hinge at B" means the B-end of the bridge is fixed in place but that the angle can change (that's the hinge part). Find the torque around B and set it equal to 0.
(Since you are taking the torque "around B" you don't need to worry about the force at that end. The two forces involved are the vertical component of force due to the 110 kg mass and the weight of the bridge which, since it is uniform, you take to be concentrated at the middle.

(and don't "poor old man" me. I'll bet I could beat you in both the "poor" and "old" departments!)
 
od u mean that the tension of the rope

the toque = +T*L*sin 30 - mass of the bridge *g*L/2 - mass of 110kg*g = 0 ??
is right ??

thanks
 

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