How can I show that y is an eigenvalue of B?

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The discussion centers around demonstrating that a given eigenvalue is associated with a transformed matrix and exploring the similarity of two matrices. The scope includes theoretical aspects of linear algebra, specifically eigenvalues and matrix similarity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if \( B = P^{-1}AP \) and \( X \) is an eigenvector of \( A \) corresponding to eigenvalue \( y \), then \( y \) should also be an eigenvalue of \( B \), but expresses uncertainty in the steps to show this.
  • Another participant corrects the first by stating that the correct form should be \( Ax = yx \) instead of \( AX = yI \), emphasizing the definition of eigenvalues and eigenvectors.
  • Further clarification is sought regarding the selection of \( P \) to establish the similarity between \( BA \) and \( AB \), with participants suggesting that \( P \) should be chosen to facilitate the equation \( BA = P^{-1}ABP \).
  • One participant expresses confusion about how to rewrite the existing equations to fit the required forms for both parts of the problem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to demonstrate the eigenvalue relationship for \( B \) or the similarity of \( BA \) and \( AB \). Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the correct manipulations and choices of \( P \).

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There are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the transformation of eigenvalue equations and the selection of the matrix \( P \). The discussion reflects dependencies on definitions and the need for clarity in matrix operations.

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Ok well i have two questions.

1) If B = P^-1AP and let X be an eigenvector of A corresponding to the eigenvalue y. Show that y is an eigenvalue of B and find a corresponding eigenvector.

This is what i did.
AX=yI and since B = P^-1Ap -> A = PBP^-1
so (PBP^-1)X=yI
Now this is the part where i get lost. Am i on the right track?

2) If A and B are nxn matrices, A is invertable, show that BA is similar to AB.

So BA = P^-1ABP because BA is similar to AB. But I am kinda lost now. I'm sure i have to do something with the fact that A is invertable. Umm... A^-1...
 
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AX=yI

Here's your mistake; what you should have is Ax = yx.

Recall that the definition is:

[itex]\vec{v}[/itex] is an eigenvector of [itex]A[/itex] corresponding to eigenvalue [itex]\lambda[/itex] iff [itex]A\vec{v} = \lambda \vec{v}[/itex].


2)

Ok, you know to be similar, you need

[tex]BA = P^{-1}ABP[/tex]

What's the simplest guess as to what P should be to make this equation hold?
 
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Originally posted by Hurkyl
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Here's your mistake; what you should have is Ax = yx.

Recall that the definition is:

[itex]\vec{v}[/itex] is an eigenvector of [itex]A[/itex] corresponding to eigenvalue [itex]\lambda[/itex] iff [itex]A\vec{v} = \lambda \vec{v}[/itex].


2)

Ok, you know to be similar, you need

[tex]BA = P^{-1}ABP[/tex]

What's the simplest guess as to what P should be to make this equation hold?

lol

i meant [itex]A\vec{v} = \lambda \vec{v}[/itex]. Stupid typo by me. But i still don't get it [b(]

And for the other one, I am lost as to what [itex]P[/itex] should be to make this equation hold. It says that [tex]A[/tex] and [itex]B[/itex] are nxn matrices. [itex]A[/itex] is invertable. show that [itex]BA[/itex] is similar to [itex]AB[/itex].. umm...
 
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You know that you need to find something of the form [itex]B\vec{w}=\lambda\vec{w}[/itex]...

but you have something of the form [itex]P^{-1}BP\vec{v} = y \vec{v}[/itex]...

The first thing I notice is that the LHS must be the matrix [itex]B[/itex] times some vector... so can you rewrite what you do have in such a way that the LHS is [itex]B[/itex] times some vector?


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You need to find a [itex]P[/itex] such that:

[tex]BA = P^{-1}ABP[/tex]


The first thing I notice is that I need to have an [itex]A[/itex] on the right of [itex]B[/itex]... you have a [itex]B[/itex] on the right hand side, can you select a value for [itex]P[/itex] so that we have an [itex]A[/itex] on the right of the [itex]B[/itex]?
 

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