Help with Circular Motion Homework: Find Gravitation Force Point

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving gravitational forces between two masses and a third mass placed between them. Participants explore how to determine the point where the third mass experiences no net gravitational force due to the other two masses, focusing on the theoretical and mathematical aspects of gravitational attraction.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help with a homework question about finding a point between two masses where a third mass experiences no net gravitational force.
  • Another participant clarifies that the question refers to the net gravitational force and suggests considering the forces acting on the third mass from both objects.
  • A different participant expresses confusion about how to approach the problem and questions the ability to calculate the net gravitational force with the given information.
  • One participant provides the gravitational force formula and explains how to set up the equations for the forces acting on the third mass, indicating that the forces will cancel when they are equal.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there is confusion regarding the approach to the problem and differing levels of understanding about the gravitational forces involved.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the values needed to solve the problem and the implications of the gravitational force formula. There are unresolved questions about the specific calculations required to find the point of no net force.

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I'm having troubles with one of my homework questions, and I was wondering if someone could help me with it.

okay here it is...

Q: Two masses, object A and object B are located 2m apart from each other, the mass of object a is m and the mass of object b is 4m.

Showing your calculations find the point between these two objects where a third object would experience no gravitation force.

I'm really stuck on this question, any help would be very much appreciated.
 
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"a third object would experience no gravitation force."
what they mean is, no net gravitation force
imagine a particle C lying on the line connecting A and B - what is the force that C feels from A? what is the force that C feels from B?
What is the net force?
 
I don't understand that at all...

I would have thought I'd try and figure out what m was = to then, maybe do that... because from what I know I don't think I can figure out the net gravititional force from just what I was given...

A little more help? heh
 
Are you aware that the force for gravitation is
[tex]\vec{F}=-\frac{Gm_1m_2}{r^2}\hat{r}[/tex]

You have two masses m and 4m and some unknown mass m_2, so the magnitude of the gravitational attraction between m and m_2 is
[tex]F_1=\frac{Gmm_2}{r_1^2}[/tex]
where r_1 is the distance between m_2 and m. The strength of the gravitational attraction between 4m and m_2 is
[tex]F_2=\frac{G(4m)m_2}{r_2^2}[/tex]
where r_2 is the distance between 4m and m_2. If m_2 lies along the line between 4m and m and the distance between m and 4m is R, then
R=r_1+r_2, so the second equation becomes
[tex]F_2=\frac{G(4m)m_2}{(R-r_1)^2}[/tex]
If m_2 is right between A and B, then the forces act in opposite directions and so cancel each other out. When F_1-F_2=0, m_2 will feel no force.
 

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