Truths everyone knows but are wrong

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The discussion revolves around the concept of widely accepted "truths" that participants believe to be incorrect or unprovable. The scope includes philosophical musings, existential questions, and speculative ideas, with a focus on the nature of existence and reality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the statement "You don't exist" reflects a philosophical perspective on existence.
  • Others suggest the existence of "invisible, undetectable monsters" as a playful challenge to common beliefs.
  • One participant claims that any theory lacking measurable predictions cannot be debunked, citing examples like undetectable gnomes and a sentient universe.
  • There are assertions about the unknowability of existence if commonsense leeway is restricted, leading to the idea that one might be a figment of another's imagination.
  • A participant humorously claims to have discovered numerous species of monsters, questioning the existence of even more.
  • Another participant introduces the notion that "Nihilists are right," adding a layer of humor to the philosophical debate.
  • Speculative ideas include the notion that white mice are a super intelligent race and that one might be in a coma, dreaming their current experiences.
  • One participant references a Twilight Zone episode to illustrate the idea of questioning reality and existence.
  • Another humorous claim is that "Jesus was an alien," contributing to the playful tone of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of competing views and speculative ideas, with no clear consensus on any particular "truth" being wrong or right. The discussion remains unresolved and exploratory.

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Limitations include the subjective nature of the claims and the philosophical assumptions underlying the discussions about existence and reality.

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Hopefully not off topic..

Just interested if anyone wants to post a "truth" that everyone knows is wrong, but cannot prove it!

I'll start off -


You don't exist.
 
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Good idea!

There are invisible, undetectable monsters under your bed.
 
The Sock Monster really does exist.
 
Any theory that does not make measurable predictions cannot be debunked.

I.e.

There are undetectable gnomes resposible for all of the physical forces.

The universe is sentient/self aware.
 
Originally posted by Jikx



You don't exist.

I could be a figment of your imagination...


And the thing about there being undetectable monsters under my bed, I've detected them before, beyatch.
 
If you restrict the commonsense leeway enough, virtually everything outside of "I exist" becomes unknowable...
 
If you restrict it even more the possibility that you are a figment of someone else's imagination comes into play, by which one can't even be sure of one's own existence.
 
Originally posted by Jonathan
If you restrict it even more the possibility that you are a figment of someone else's imagination comes into play, by which one can't even be sure of one's own existence.
Exactly. It really is crazy that way...

But leave it to the Nihilist to deny everything (that's taking Skepticism too far)...
 
Heres another:
Nihilists are right.
LOL.
 
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Originally posted by wasteofo2

And the thing about there being undetectable monsters under my bed, I've detected them before, beyatch.

Not those, the other ones.
 
  • #11


Originally posted by NateTG
Not those, the other ones.

Jeez, I've discovered 5 different freakin phyla and over 260 different species of monsters and you're telling me there're more?
 
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haha nice.. i can't disprove 0 :wink:

another one i just though of - I live forever !
 
  • #13
anything
 
  • #14
White mice are really a super intelligent race that has been torturing researchers with nonsense responses for years.

Oh yes, white mice are born with cancer; it just doesn't become detectable until later.
 
  • #15
I'm in a coma
(and just dreaming all of this)

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i watched the Twilight Zone marathon recently--one of the shows was Dennis Weaver (Chester of the Gunsmoke series) dreaming the same dream every night-the dream always began in the courtroom as he was being sentenced to death-

-the essential story remained the same (yet some of the 'characters' would change-a different Judge, or Priest-who were or had been people he had known in 'reality')...-he pleaded with his lawyer , a 'dreamed character' as he was in jailcell waiting to be be executed in the dream every night-and he attempted to explain his prediciment -persuading him that he (the lawyer) was 'in reality' only a 'dreamed up ' character--

"No one is tried and executed the same day!"...

If you are reading this, and saw this episode...prove I'm not just part of YOUR DREAM...WAKE UP!
 
  • #16
Jesus was an alien.

I love my job.
 

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