What is the fifth term in this arithmetic sequence?

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The discussion revolves around finding the fifth term in a specified arithmetic sequence defined by the first four terms: x+y, x-y, xy, and x/y. Participants explore methods to derive the fifth term, addressing the complexity introduced by the variables involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for help in determining the fifth term, emphasizing that it should be a numerical value rather than a variable.
  • Another participant suggests that the common difference between the terms can be calculated, leading to two equations with two unknowns.
  • A different viewpoint argues that the problem actually involves three variables due to the common difference, complicating the system of equations.
  • In response, a participant maintains that the common difference can be expressed in terms of the two variables, thus simplifying the problem.
  • One participant proposes substituting x with py and derives equations based on this substitution, ultimately calculating the fifth term as 123/40.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the complexity of the problem, with some believing it can be simplified to two variables while others argue it involves three. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to find the fifth term.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the solution depends on the values of x and y, and there are assumptions regarding the non-zero nature of y. The mathematical steps involve cross-multiplication and substitutions that may not be universally agreed upon.

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The first four terms in an arithmetic sequence are x+y, x-y, xy, x/y, in that order. What is the fifth term?
Can anyone show me how to do it?
O btw, the fifth term is a number, is not a variable
Thx
 
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Well, you know the first term: x + y.

You know the second term: x - y.

So, you can find the difference between successive terms.

Thus, you can write down the third and fourth terms in a different way, and you'll have two equations in two unknowns.
 
No, it would be 3 variable, becuz of the common difference between them, and the system is very complicated, because is in terms of x and y
 
Yes, but you can solve for the difference in terms of x and y, so there are only two unknowns!


And it won't be too complicated; have a little faith and try it. :smile: If you get stuck, post how far you got and I can nudge you the rest of the way.
 
Let us substitute x = py. Then,((p+1)y, (p-1)y, p*y^2 and p (in this order) are first four terms in an arithmetic sequence with a common difference (c.d) of -2y.

Thus, (p-3)y = p*y^2 …(i), and:
(p-5)y = p …(ii)

From (i), we note that y must be nonzero, otherwise x/y becomes indeterminate. Therefore, (i) forces y = (p-3)/p, while from (ii), we obtain: y = p/(p-5)

Hence, (p-3)/p = p/(p-5), whereupon in terms of cross multiplication, we obtain:

p^2 = p^2 – 8p+ 15, so that: p = 15/8, giving: y = -15/25 = -3/5, and:
x = (15/8)*(-3/5) = -9/8

So, the c.d = -2y = 6/5, and accordingly:

The required fifth term = p – 2y = 15/8 + 6/5 = 123/40
 
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