Solving for Net Force of Charge Q on Two Charges q1 & q2

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The discussion revolves around determining the position of a charge Q such that the net force acting on it due to two other charges, q1 and q2, is zero. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics and requires an understanding of forces between charged particles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the force equations based on the positions of the charges and question the accuracy of their mathematical manipulations. There is an exploration of the signs in the equations and the implications of those signs on the resulting expressions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical expressions and checking each other's work. Some guidance has been offered regarding the handling of signs in the equations, and there is a recognition of differing interpretations of the results. The conversation is ongoing, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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There is mention of specific values for the charges involved, with q1 being positive and q2 being negative. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of these values on their calculations and the resulting equations.

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Hello all,

I have two charges, q1 & q2, along a horizontal axis of length L. I supposed to determine the length at which another charge, Q, can be placed so that its net force is zero, other than infinitely away.

I'm using the equation:
F = kq1Q / r + kq2Q / r
-- > kq1Q / (L+x)^2 = -( kq2Q / x^2 ) where x is the distance the point is away from L.

I substitute my #s and I get the equation:
(8 / (l^2 + 2xL + x^2)) = -(2/x^2)
and then I get:
8x^2 = -2(L^2 + 2xL + x^2)
-4x^2 = L^2 + 2xL + x^2
0 = L^2 + 2xL + 5x^2
Is this right? I cannot seem to solve for x.

I thought I initially had it, but reworked through my math and realized I forgot to have 2q negative. What I initally got was:
L^2 + 2xL - 3x^2
I can solve that by 'unfoiling' easily, but, as I previously mentioned, the math isn't correct to get that equation.

Thank you for your help and have a wonderful day.
 
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What values are you using for q1 and q2?
 
I'm using 8 for q1 and -2 for q2.
 
Originally posted by kashmirekat

I thought I initially had it, but reworked through my math and realized I forgot to have 2q negative. What I initally got was:
L^2 + 2xL - 3x^2
I can solve that by 'unfoiling' easily, but, as I previously mentioned, the math isn't correct to get that equation.
What makes you think the math isn't correct? Looks right to me.
 
I start with this equation:
(8 / (L^2 + 2xL + x^2)) = -(-2/x^2), cross multiply
8x^2 = -2(L^2 + 2xL + x^2), divide by -2
-4x^2 = L^2 + 2xL + x^2, add -4x^2
0 = L^2 + 2xL + 5x^2, not L^2 + 2xL - 3x^2 as I had originally hoped for.
So, how do you solve for x (in terms of L) for this equation:
0 = L^2 + 2xL + 5x^2
 
Originally posted by kashmirekat
I start with this equation:
(8 / (L^2 + 2xL + x^2)) = -(-2/x^2), cross multiply
8x^2 = -2(L^2 + 2xL + x^2), divide by -2
-4x^2 = L^2 + 2xL + x^2, add -4x^2
0 = L^2 + 2xL + 5x^2, not L^2 + 2xL - 3x^2 as I had originally hoped for.
You are messing up with signs. In your first equation, the minus signs cancel. Your original hope was correct. :smile:
 
I was in the middle of asking a question about the signs and your response answered it perfectly.

Thank you.
 
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