Calculating Drop Time to Reach 90 km/h: Confirm/Deny!

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The discussion centers around calculating the time it takes for an object to reach a velocity of 90 km/h when dropped from rest, considering gravitational acceleration and the effects of air resistance. Participants explore various equations of motion and their applications in this context.

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  • One participant claims it takes about 2.26 seconds to reach 90 km/h, using various kinematic equations.
  • Another participant calculates the time to be 2.55 seconds, assuming no air resistance and using an acceleration of 9.81 m/s², and notes that falling for 2.26 seconds results in a velocity of 80 km/h.
  • A request for clarification is made regarding the calculations, indicating confusion over the results.
  • One participant explains their calculation process, converting 90 km/h to 25 m/s and applying the formula T = Velocity/acceleration.
  • Another participant questions the use of a specific equation, suggesting that it may not be appropriate for the scenario described.
  • A response indicates that the equation used is incorrect for determining final velocity from distance and acceleration, emphasizing the need for consistency in units across equations.

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Participants express differing views on the time required to reach 90 km/h, with calculations yielding different results. There is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants assume standard gravitational acceleration but note variations in values used. The discussion highlights the importance of unit consistency in equations and the potential for confusion in applying kinematic formulas.

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Can anyone confirm/deny that if an object is dropped (init. velocity=0) that it will take about 2.26 seconds to reach 90 km/h?

[tex]S=\frac{D}{T}[/tex]
[tex]A=\frac{V_f-V_i}{T_f-T_i}[/tex]
[tex]D=\frac{1}{2}gT^2[/tex]
[tex]V_f^2=V_i^2+2a(X_f-X_i)[/tex]
[tex]\overline{V}=\frac{V_f+V_i}{2}[/tex]
 
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Assuming no air resistance and an acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2, I get 2.55 seconds.

Or if the object falls for 2.26 seconds, it will have a velocity of 80 Km/hr.
 
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Can you go through it for me? It's really confusing me as to why I keep getting what I do.
 
Time = Velocity/acceleration

The units I used were Seconds, m/s, m/s^2

I converted your value of 90 km/hr to m/s. Divide by 3.6 to convert km/hr to m/s. 90 km/hr = 25 m/s

I simply plugged in the values into the above formula.

T = 25 /9.81 = 2.55 seconds.

Your answer wans't really that far off. What values did you use?
 
Just to start off, we have to assume gravity to be 9.8 in our physics class, but I don't think that can attribute to the difference. Anyhoo, what is wrong with using:

[tex]V_f = V_i + \frac{1}{2} a t^2[/tex]
If [tex]V_f[/tex]=25 and [tex]\frac{1}{2}a[/tex]=4.9 and [tex]V_i[/tex]=0, then what should I come out with, or is this the wrong equation?
 
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It's the wrong equation. [itex]1/2 a t^2[/itex] is an expression of distance traveled under a constant acceleration for a given length of time.

Since [itex]V_i=0[/itex], your equation simplifies to [itex]V_f = 1/2 a t^2[/itex] which is not correct. [itex]D = 1/2 a t^2[/itex] when intial distance and velocity equal 0. Otherwise,

[tex]D = D_i+V_i t + \frac{a t^2}{2}[/tex]

the units on one side of the equation have to match the units on the other side. That's a good way to check for errors in an equation.

[tex]V_f = V_i + a t[/tex]
 
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