Plotting Gradients of Scalar Fields on the Plane

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The discussion revolves around finding the gradient of a scalar field defined as phi(r) = xy on the plane (x,y) and plotting the resulting vector field at specified points. Participants are exploring the mathematical concepts related to gradients and vector fields.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the gradient and its representation as a vector field. Questions arise about the correct evaluation of the gradient at specific points and the method for plotting these vectors on a graph.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the gradient values at the specified points, with some participants confirming calculations while others express uncertainty. Guidance has been provided on how to plot the vectors based on the calculated gradient values.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration. There is a focus on ensuring correct evaluations and representations of the gradient at the specified points.

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Here's the question:

Suppose we have a scalar field phi(r)=xy defined on the plane (x,y). Find th vector field gradient phi, and plot the result in a single graph atthe four points (1,1), (-1,1) (1,-1), (-1,-1) and at the four points (1,0),(0,1),(-1,0) and (0,-1).

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For the gradient of phi(r)=xy, I got yi + xj. Is this right?
 
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how will I plot it. Do i have to solve the eequation at each of those points and plot the answer that I get?
 
Originally posted by jlmac2001
For the gradient of phi(r)=xy, I got yi + xj. Is this right? [/B]

Yes.
 


Originally posted by jlmac2001
how will I plot it. Do i have to solve the eequation at each of those points and plot the answer that I get?

No, it's not that involved. For each of the 4 points, you plug in the values of x and y (edit: plug them into the gradient). From those, you will get 4 vectors, which you need to sketch on the graph.
 
is this right ?

Okay. So at (1,1) it would be i + j
at(-1, 1)= -i
at (1,-1) = i-j
at (-1,-1) = -i-j

How would I plot it?
 


Originally posted by jlmac2001
Okay. So at (1,1) it would be i + j

Right.

at(-1, 1)= -i
at (1,-1) = i-j

These are wrong. Remember that for your vector v, grad(v)=yi+xj.

at (-1,-1) = -i-j

This one is OK.

How would I plot it?

Go to the point in question and let that be the origin of a vector whose components are what you calculated them to be. For instance, in the first case go to the point (1,1) and draw the vector i+j.

Also, don't forget to do the same for the other 4 points listed. You will have 8 vectors in all.
 

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