What is it called when they use the minority to attack the majority?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a specific logical fallacy where an individual uses a minor instance to discredit a larger group or argument. Participants explore various terms and concepts related to this phenomenon, including comparisons to straw man arguments and hasty generalizations.

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  • One participant suggests that the act of attacking a single instance to negate a broader argument resembles a straw man argument, but expresses uncertainty about this classification.
  • Another participant clarifies that a straw man argument involves misrepresenting an opponent's view to make it easier to attack, which they argue does not fit the original example presented.
  • A different participant proposes the term "hasty generalization" as a potential label for the discussed phenomenon.
  • Another participant mentions "choplogic" as a possible term but ultimately agrees with the suggestion of hasty generalization.
  • One participant expresses satisfaction in identifying a name for the argument style discussed, indicating a level of agreement with the term proposed by others.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single term to describe the phenomenon, with multiple competing views and terms being suggested throughout the discussion.

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Participants reference specific logical fallacies but do not fully explore the definitions or implications of these terms, leaving some assumptions and nuances unaddressed.

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For example:

- You once lied.
- You are therefore a liar.

Perhaps not a very good example, but the premise is the same; they will attack a single manifestation of something as though it were a microcosm of everything else. What is this called? I first thought it was somewhat of a straw man argument, but I'm not certain. It happens a lot in arguments, because someone will take one instance out of many to negate all else. Make sense?
 
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I don't know, but it is not a "stawman". A strawman is a weak argument made to be defeated. You frame your opponent's view in a weak, or even false, way that can easily be negated.

Njorl
 
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I don't know, but it is not a "stawman". A strawman is a weak argument made to be defeated. You frame your opponent's view in a weak, or even false, way that can easily be negated.

Njorl

That's why I thought it was somewhat of a straw man, because they embellished on a single instance of something (the weak argument) to negate the entire argument. I know it's not, but that's the closest one that came to mind.

Thanks!
 
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Perhaps it's just hasty generalisation?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/hasty-generalization.html
 
I would have said choplogic, but I think FZ+ is right.
 
I believe FZ is correct, so I can now at least put a name to it when I hear the familiar argument.

Thanks all!
 

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