Would an unwrapping tetherball be able to steal all earth momentum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of a tetherball unwrapping from a pole and its potential effects on Earth's angular momentum. Participants explore concepts related to conservation of angular momentum, the mechanics of the tetherball's motion, and the implications of these ideas within a theoretical framework, while neglecting gravitational effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if the tetherball spins opposite to Earth's rotation, it could theoretically pull on the string and accelerate in the opposite direction, raising questions about conservation of angular momentum.
  • Another participant argues that the tetherball's motion does not increase its speed or angular momentum due to the nature of its acceleration towards the center pole, asserting that it does not affect Earth's angular momentum.
  • A participant claims that the tetherball appears to break conservation laws by maintaining constant linear speed while changing radius, suggesting that it gains angular momentum from Earth.
  • One participant challenges the need for mathematical validation of claims, emphasizing the importance of applying physics principles to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the implications of the tetherball's motion and its relationship to conservation of angular momentum. Participants express differing opinions on whether the tetherball can affect Earth's angular momentum.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on the definitions and implications of angular momentum in this context, and there are unresolved mathematical considerations regarding the tetherball's motion.

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neglecting gravity in this problem the tetherball starts in the pole with a pole XD thickness of 1m

if the tether spins oposite to Earth the Earth pulls on the string a revolution every 24 hours accelerating the tetherball opposite sense

doesnt this agree with conservation of angular momentum?

i don't make any affirmation I am just asking
 
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The tetherball is accelerated toward the center pole, in a direction exactly perpendicular to its motion. Hence, it does not increase its speed linearly or increase its angular momentum. It doesn't affect the Earth's angular momentum at all.
 
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Do a forum search for "tetherball". And please tell us that you are not eosphorous under a different name (but only if it's true, of course).
 
my point is that a tetherball APARENTLY breaks the conservation of angular momentum because it keeps a constant linear speed however the radius

after pages of discussion here its been agreed that the tether gets that extra angular momentum from earth

from there my idea to steal ertahs angular momentum
 
There is no such thing as "apparently" - it either does or it doesn't (hint: it doesn't).

Have you even tried to apply some math to calculate what happens here? We're not going to indulge your rambling rants. You need to show that you are willing to actually learn physics if you want these discussions to continue.
 
pervect said:
And please tell us that you are not eosphorous under a different name
Dang! You beat me to the 'Aviator Alert'.
 

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