Describe what color is or the basic concept of color

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of color and how it can be described to individuals who have been blind since birth. Participants explore various methods and perspectives on conveying the idea of color, including sensory experiences and technical definitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether color can be described to a blind person and seeks methods for doing so.
  • Another suggests using music, specifically the song "Lateralus" by Tool, as a means to convey the concept of color.
  • A different participant proposes that a blind person might perceive differences in light intensity if exposed to a bright light, suggesting this could serve as an introduction to color.
  • In response, one participant argues that a totally blind person would not be able to detect light changes due to non-functional retinal nerves.
  • Another participant concurs with this point and emphasizes that closing one's eyes does not block out all light, thus differentiating between sighted and blind experiences.
  • This participant also expresses skepticism about the value of describing color to a blind person, suggesting that technical definitions might be more appropriate for understanding the physics of color rather than experiential descriptions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether color can be effectively described to a blind person. Some participants believe it is possible through sensory experiences, while others argue that it is not feasible or necessary.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the capabilities of blind individuals regarding light perception, and there are unresolved questions about the effectiveness of different methods for conveying the concept of color.

positron98
Is there a way to describe what color is or the basic concept of color to a person who has been blind since birth?

If so, how?
 
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try playing Lateralus by Tool to the person in question
 
Heres something I've always wanted to know. When people who are not blind close their eyes you can still tell the difference between whether the lights in the room are on or off. So if you were to put a blind person in a very dark room and then shine a very bright light into their eyes would they be able to tell any difference?

So using that as one point to go from if they can this is a good way to introduce color to them I think. If not I think that perhaps warmth would be a good way to do it.
 
I don't think a totally blind person can make such a detection climbhi, since the nerves behind the retina would be non-functional.
 
Originally posted by positron98
I don't think a totally blind person can make such a detection climbhi, since the nerves behind the retina would be non-functional.

You are correct. When we close our eyes, we are really just closing our eye-lids over our eyes (obviously) and they aren't thick enough to block out alllight.

BTW, Welcome to the PFs positron98 :smile:

As far as your original question goes, I think that there is very little need to describe color to a blind person. They don't really have any use of it. If I were to attempt this, I'd probably just give technical definitions of color, as opposed to actually describing it. This may not be good enough for a blind person who wants to experience color (which they won't be able to do anyway), but it will be enough to let that person understand the physics behind color.

I guess what I'm saying is that there isn't much point in trying to describe color to a blind person, because it probably isn't possible. However, it is possible to describe color in the technical sense, and as it is used in understanding Physics, and this could to the person.
 

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