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Macy's kills dogs for fur

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Dec23-06, 06:40 PM
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NEW YORK - Macy's has pulled from its shelves and its Web site two styles of Sean John hooded jackets, originally advertised as featuring faux fur, after an investigation by the nation's largest animal protection organization concluded that the garments were actually made from a certain species of dog called "raccoon dog."

"First these jackets were falsely advertised as faux fur, and then it turned out that the fur came from a type of dog," said Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States.

...Orlando Veras, a spokesman at Macy's, a division of Federated Department Stores Inc., confirmed Friday that the retailer had removed the jackets, releasing a statement saying that it has a "long-standing policy against the selling of any dog or cat fur." He continued, "This policy is clearly communicated to all suppliers."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061222/...macy_s_dog_fur

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Why are dogs and cats treated different from minks, possums or muskrats?
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Dec23-06, 09:20 PM
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Apparently there is a shortage of faux fur in China where the garments were made.

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Dec23-06, 09:27 PM
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Macy's kills dogs for fur

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Why are dogs and cats treated different from minks, possums or muskrats?
minks, possums or muskrats aren't common pets. We think of our dogs and cats as humans.
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Dec23-06, 09:32 PM
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Yep, that's pretty much it, the emotional attachment people have for animals they consider "companions" rather than "livestock."

Of course, in this case, it goes even beyond that, because there are people who would opt not to buy ANY real fur, so them being told it's faux fur, and then learning that it's really animal fur would be a big issue for them, regardless of which animal it's from.
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Yep, that's pretty much it, the emotional attachment people have for animals they consider "companions" rather than "livestock."
So it's from marketing considerations, not moral considerations. People!
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So it's from marketing considerations, not moral considerations. People!
Yeah, it's definitely a bias people have. If it were up to my cat, she'd say make all the coats out of dogs, and she might not even object to other cats.
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Dec23-06, 10:12 PM
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"Macy's kills dogs for fur"

Sorry but that title is completely misleading.

But anyway, I do not understand this double standard that some people have by having no problems with leather coats or even fox or mink coats and then getting all upset about dog or cat skins.
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Dec23-06, 10:35 PM
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Lol, I dunno. I would feel OK being with someone who is wearing a fur coat (I don't wear fur. lol) but if I knew it was made of cat's fur.... that's just creepy. Human nature I guess. It doesn't make sense to me logically, but thats just how it goes I guess.
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Lol, I dunno. I would feel OK being with someone who is wearing a fur coat (I don't wear fur. lol) but if I knew it was made of cat's fur.... that's just creepy.
*Makes best Homer Simpson impression* Cat fur... Comfy...
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Dec24-06, 02:25 AM
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When I first heard about this story, I couldn't help chuckling a little. 'Twasn't so long ago that shops would sell fake fur as the real thing...now they sell real fur as fake!
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Dec24-06, 03:29 AM
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The dog and cat protection act of 2000


http://www.cbp.gov/xp/CustomsToday/2...today_dogs.xml

Last year, Customs was mandated, under the "Dog and Cat Protection Act of 2000," to formulate an enforcement plan to stop the import and export of merchandise containing dog or cat fur obtained inhumanely.
I guess this makes it okay to import/export mink fur obtained inhumanely?
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Dec24-06, 03:38 AM
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Funny thing: I have never met anyone who hates any animal more than a certain mink farmer. He absolutely hates minks. I guess the darn things are viscious. But in either case, we have many laws intended to prevent cruelty to animals. Mink are probably in there as well.

As another aside, I knew another guy who tried raising ostriches. After they totally kicked his *** one day he didn't like them anymore either.
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Quote Quote by Ivan Seeking View Post
As another aside, I knew another guy who tried raising ostriches. After they totally kicked his *** one day he didn't like them anymore either.
This is priceless!
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I sure thought so!!! He was off work for about a week...
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Dec24-06, 09:11 AM
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Did anybody else google to see what a raccoon dog is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon_Dog

I now want one of those as a pet. They look so cute.
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Dec24-06, 09:27 AM
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Here's another picture:

http://www.canids.org/gallery/Popup19383.jpg

They are pretty cute looking. lol :-)
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But in either case, we have many laws intended to prevent cruelty to animals. Mink are probably in there as well.
Yes, and with animals used for fur, it doesn't pay to mistreat them...literally. An obvious sign of ill-health or distress in those animals is that their fur starts to become scraggly and dry and poorly groomed. If you want a very plush, high quality (and therefore high price) coat out of their pelts, you want to keep them very healthy and happy while raising them. Educating fur farmers that they can make more money if they treat their animals well has made more improvement in the animals' welfare than just passing laws.

I do respect people who choose not to use animal products of any kind (fur, leather, meat, etc.)...I disagree with them and will vehemently argue against them if they want to push that on others, but I respect that as their individual moral position. On the other hand, I don't have much respect when people pick and choose based on the animal's cuteness (snakeskin or eel skin wallets are okay, or leather tennis shoes are okay, but not coats from the cute furry minks).


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