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| Dec25-06, 09:39 AM | #1 |
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Free abelian group proof help
I'm working on a proof for subgroups of free abelian groups and am having trouble with a step (I know other methods, but would like to try and make this one work if possible).
The basic idea is let G be a free abelian group with generators [itex](g_1...g_n)[/itex] and let H be a subgroup of G. Assuming a suitable renumbering of the generators so that g1 does not have all zero coefficients in H, we can find a minimal coefficient of g1 in H (with respect to absolute value, and non-zero of course), and then it is easy to show that all other coefficient of g1 in H have to be multiples of this coefficient. Call it [itex]\alpha[/itex]. I realized that might not have been clear. What I mean is let: [itex]h=a_1 g_1 +...+a_n g_n \in H[/itex] then [itex]\alpha[/itex] is minimal of all a1 so that we know there is some element [itex]h_2[/itex] in H such that [itex]h_2=\alpha g_1 +...+a_n g_n \in H[/itex] And all other a1's in an arbitrary h are multiples of [itex]\alpha[/itex]. What I would like to do is show that [itex]\alpha g_1 \in H[/itex] But maybe this isn't necessarily true? Or am I missing something simple to show this? |
| Dec25-06, 09:52 AM | #2 |
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Hrm. I still don't understand exactly what you want to say. But maybe a bad example will be useful!
Consider the free abelian group on 2 generators, G = Z². Let H = { (m, n) | m + n is even } H is a subgroup of Z². The smallest scalar multiple of the generator (1, 0) that lies in H is 2(1, 0). Alas, 1(1, 0) + 1(0, 1) lies in H, and |1| < |2|. |
| Dec25-06, 10:13 AM | #3 |
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I guess I wasn't clear enough, sorry. However, even though you seem to have misunderstood what I meant your example does show why I was having trouble proving my result since it is apparently not true, so thanks.
I was looking for a simplification of a proof, but I guess that was wishful thinking. |
| Dec29-06, 02:08 PM | #4 |
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Free abelian group proof help
what are you trying to prove?
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| Dec30-06, 02:39 AM | #5 |
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I figured it out, but thanks anyway.
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