Solve Descriptive Geometry Homework - Pt. M to N Length (-50%)

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem in descriptive geometry, specifically determining the location of point n given point m and the conditions of a line with a -50% grade directed due south. Participants explore the geometric implications of the problem and seek assistance in visualizing and calculating the coordinates of point n.

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Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster describes the problem and attempts to understand the implications of a -50% grade for the line from point m(4, 8, -2) to point n.
  • Some participants inquire about the type of projection being used, with one suggesting the Monge projection and another clarifying the use of orthographic projection.
  • The poster explains the use of orthographic projection, detailing the three planes involved: horizontal (H), frontal (F), and side (S), and their respective axes.
  • A hint is provided suggesting that the line must intersect the plane where y = 2, which is perpendicular to the y-axis, indicating a potential approach to finding point n.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact location of point n, and the discussion remains unresolved with multiple approaches and hints being offered.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the projection methods and the geometric relationships involved, but these remain unresolved. The exact calculations and reasoning leading to the determination of point n are not fully articulated.

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Homework Statement


A line from point m(4,8,-2) is due south and has a grade of -50% to pt. n. complete the location of n(?,2,?) and give the true length of the line.

Homework Equations


Grade: \frac{rise}{run} x 100%
The plane H, F and S - if someone knows about this other than me
The bearing can only be determined in the horizontal plane (north south ETC.)

The Attempt at a Solution


This is a graphing subject... and I am using an orthographic paper...
Lemme explain...

the point is m(4, 8, -2)... so the line downward is due south in the horizontal plane since the bearing can only be determined in the horizontal plane... but my *problem* is where is the line??

The grade here is 50% so
-50 / 100 = - 1 / 2
so 1 to the rise and 2 to the run from n thus it is going down one unit and going to the left 2 units since it is negative... but i don't know where n lies... so this is my *problem*

and I am suspecting that n lies at the y coordinate... but can't still get the point n

I don't know if i posted this on the right thread but forgive me
please help and give some hints if there's any engineer/architect having knowledge of this...
 
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Are you using the Monge projection?
 
Hi radou...
No I am using the orthograpic projection w/c consists of three planes:
in the Horizontal plane or H - lies x, and y axes
Frontal plane or F - x, z
Side plane or S - y , z

See what i tried...
im using autocad w/c is similar... but for real I am really using the orthographic sheet... because this is a drafting subject
untitled.jpg

see what I plotted
...
so the lines from the H plane which i drew a line is due south in which i can't determine the line from south... and the other line is the line i marked which is 2 = y... in which it has the n coordinate i did this to make it easier but i can't still get it...
plus the yellow point is the point m(4, 8 ,-2)
 
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Hint (I hope it can be found useful): the line must intersect the plane which contains the point y = 2 and is perpendicular to the y-axis.
 

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