Is There a Double Standard when it Comes to Prostitution in Our Society?

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The discussion revolves around the societal perceptions and legal status of prostitution, exploring the potential double standards in how sexual transactions are viewed compared to other forms of relationship dynamics. Participants examine the implications of legalizing prostitution, its moral and ethical considerations, and the comparisons drawn between prostitution and other forms of transactional relationships, such as dating and gift-giving.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that prostitution should be legalized and regulated similarly to drugs, suggesting it could provide a source of revenue and enhance safety through medical examinations.
  • Others challenge the idea of government regulation, describing it as akin to "government pimping" and questioning the ethics of such a system.
  • A comparison is made between prostitution and the practice of spending money on dates with the expectation of sex, with some participants suggesting this reflects a societal double standard.
  • One participant likens the expectation of sex after spending money to low-stakes gambling, while another counters that this analogy may oversimplify the complexities involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the societal implications of legalizing prostitution, particularly regarding the values instilled in future generations.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the practicality of legalizing prostitution, citing potential social consequences and increased costs for regulation.
  • There are humorous exchanges regarding the implications of taxation on legalized prostitution, with suggestions about how one might categorize such work for tax purposes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the legality and morality of prostitution, with no clear consensus reached. Some advocate for legalization, while others highlight the impracticalities and ethical concerns associated with it.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about societal norms, legal definitions, and the implications of transactional relationships, with participants not fully reconciling these perspectives.

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world's oldest "profession"

Referred to as the world's oldest "profession," prostitution is defined as the act or practice of selling oneself for sexual purposes. It is also defined as an unworthy use of a talent, quality, or the like, especially for personal gain. What's interesting is that the former is illegal in all states except Nevada while the latter has been morally and culturally accepted since the beginning of time. This begs the question: is there any difference between a street walker/escort and a person who uses their physical beauty to attain a lifestyle that others labor very hard to attain? Too often in our society we see evidence of the "trophy spouse"; a reward received by those who achieve success in business or entertainment. The marriage consists of a person who sees a beautiful spouse as something to obtain and a person who deliberately shops lifestyle by any sexual means necessary.

Some would argue that prostitution should be made legal so that (just as with drugs) it can be regulated by the state and become a source of revenue enhancement. Furthermore, sex between strangers would be safer since the government (as in Nevada) would require regular medical examinations to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. The problem facing this country is that we haven't reconciled these two definitions thus creating the existence of a double standard. We are quick to arrest and condemn the street walker/escort but would never think to shun a sexual opportunist. In many ways, prostitution already is legal in our society. People pay to watch two people have sex with each other but yet cannot pay each other for sex. I recall two people comparing their lifestyles while waiting in line at the airport. One person told the other "the difference between you and me is that you pay for your sex with cash and I pay for it with dinners, clothing and jewelry". The problem with this country today is not that we are a nation of laws but rather a nation that continually contradicts itself when it comes to morality.
 
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Originally posted by JOEBIALEK

Some would argue that prostitution should be made legal so that (just as with drugs) it can be regulated by the state and become a source of revenue enhancement.

The government pimping the people. That is the most interesting thing I've heard all day.

Originally posted by JOEBIALEK
One person told the other "the difference between you and me is that you pay for your sex with cash and I pay for it with dinners, clothing and jewelry". The problem with this country today is not that we are a nation of laws but rather a nation that continually contradicts itself when it comes to morality.

I guess one can view it from the vantage point of Valentines Day. Its a typical stock situation and occurs all the time on sit-coms: The guy spends money on the girl (flowers, chocolates, etc.) and hopes to "score" later on during that night *cough* hubba-hubba *cough*. Is this not prostitution? My argument may seem extreme (to point of absurdity) but in a sense it is true.
 


Originally posted by motai
The guy spends money on the girl (flowers, chocolates, etc.) and hopes to "score" later on during that night *cough* hubba-hubba *cough*. Is this not prostitution? My argument may seem extreme (to point of absurdity) but in a sense it is true.

Not really, that sounds more like low stakes gambling to me...to make it an appropriate comparision...if the guy doesn't "score" later that night...the dates big "Daddy" beats the crap out of her and kicks her out into the street. "No daughter of mine is going to live here and not put out!" (absurd I know, but you get the point)
 
I admit that the two are very similar. It's an interesting comparison, certainly. However, regardless of the ethics, legalizing prostitution (the legal definition, anyway) is horribly impractical. Society isn't organized properly to allow such a thing without significant consequences.

Imagine there being no social recourse for bringing up a daughter under the premise that her only value lies in servicing random men for money.

We'd probably end up having to spend more money in social services and regulation than it's costing us.

cookiemonster
 
How many places did you post this?
 


Originally posted by JOEBIALEK


Some would argue that prostitution should be made legal so that (just as with drugs) it can be regulated by the state and become a source of revenue enhancement.

Why not kill wto birds with one stone? You can legalise both and have a real "corperate pimp" relationship by using addiction to keep yer ho's in there place!
 
So, buying dinner for a lday is only done at the expectation of sex. I'll not touch this one.
 
Originally posted by phatmonky
So, buying dinner for a lday is only done at the expectation of sex. I'll not touch this one.

I don't think he was saying that this is always done with the expectation of sex. Just that it does happen and is a much more accepted way of "purchasing" sex.
 
Originally posted by master_coda
I don't think he was saying that this is always done with the expectation of sex. Just that it does happen and is a much more accepted way of "purchasing" sex.

Exactly, as kat mentioned earlier, it is like low stakes gambling. The guy may or may not get it but it is certainly far more legal than 'direct' prostitution.
 
  • #11
Originally posted by russ_watters
Gambling is also illegal in most states.
Lol, unless it's state sponsored!
 
  • #12
I'm confused by what some people have posted. The point was to show the similarities between gold-digging/romancing with money and gifts and prositution and then point out the oddity of the legal difference, wonder what the distinction is that justifies the legal difference, and people responded by saying that the legal difference is the distinction!
 
  • #13


Originally posted by JOEBIALEK
Referred to as the world's oldest "profession,"


NOT! The world's oldest profession is farming/gardening.
 
  • #14
Jobialek, I happened to drop by the forums on Bill Maher's site, just for the hell of it, and I noticed a very familiar-seeming post...
 
  • #15
Make it legal
 
  • #16
Originally posted by Dissident Dan
Jobialek, I happened to drop by the forums on Bill Maher's site, just for the hell of it, and I noticed a very familiar-seeming post...
He's posted it about 120 different places.
 
  • #17
Originally posted by Peter Pan
Make it legal

Here, here! (or "Hear, hear!"?)
 
  • #18
Originally posted by Dissident Dan
Here, here! (or "Hear, hear!"?)

Do we have someone to second this decision?
 
  • #19
Originally posted by motai
Do we have someone to second this decision?
Heck, I think it is a fin eidea...and then we can tax it!
 
  • #20
Originally posted by Zero
Heck, I think it is a fin eidea...and then we can tax it!

It would certainly make accounting more interesting.

Njorl
 
  • #21
Originally posted by Njorl
It would certainly make accounting more interesting.

Njorl
How would you fill out the line on your taxes labeled "occupation"...and would lonely IRS people jot down your phone number, just in case they are in town?
 
  • #22
Originally posted by Zero
Heck, I think it is a fin eidea...and then we can tax it!

It sure would make the federal defecit decline, and it will give more money to things such as education and decrease unemployment (due to IRS Pimps and more jobs for women). The STD rate can be controlled (the user must take a test before business with government prostitute), and it sure would generate a lot of revenue.
 
  • #23
Originally posted by Zero
How would you fill out the line on your taxes labeled "occupation"...

"Receptionist"?
 
  • #24
Recreational Consultant. Makes it sound all business like.
 
  • #25
I saw Recreational Therapist for it in a book last week.
 
  • #26
I can just imagine federal bordellos. Take a number, fill out forms, wait in line behind the non-English speaker who has some special problem...

By the time my turn came up I wouldn't be horny anymore.

Hmmm, if the bible thumpers ever consider that, they might come out for state-sponsored prostitution.

Njorl
 
  • #27
Wouldn't that be a hoot?? Pat Robertson supporting prostitution would absolutely make my millenium!
 

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