Easy problem but i'm getting something wrong

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The problem involves calculating the distance a shopping cart moves when pushed with a constant force, given its mass and the time of motion. The subject area pertains to dynamics and kinematics in physics.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and its application to find distance. Questions arise about the method of finding distance, with some participants suggesting integration and others referencing average speed calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to calculate the distance. Some participants have provided guidance on using average speed and integrating velocity, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the average speed over time when acceleration is constant. There is mention of using calculus versus simpler methods for those who may not have that background.

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In a grocery store, you push a 14.5 kg shopping cart with a force of 11.0 N. If the cart starts at rest, how far does it move in 3.00 s?

i've got that acceleration = force/mass

so the acceleration i got was .7586
but for some reason i keep getting the answer to the problem wrong

theanswer is in meters

_____m
 
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How are you finding the distance?

Please show us what you have done.
 
Think I'll just let Integral handle it...

Just ignore this post.

cookiemonster
 
my work

as i got .7586 m/s2 as the acceleration,

i multiplied by 3 seconds to get 2.28 m/s

then i multiplied 2.28x 3 seconds to get 6.83 meters
 
But it wasn't going 2.28m/s the whole time. That's the problem.

You know the velocity formula obviously. Just integrate that to get a distance formula.

[tex]d = \int V dt[/tex]

[tex]d = \int (V_i + at) dt[/tex]

[tex]d = V_it + \frac{1}{2}at^2 + d_o[/tex]

Sorry for making it sound complicated, I just wanted to write that

The answer should be 3.4137m
 
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Originally posted by tgoot84
as i got .7586 m/s2 as the acceleration,

i multiplied by 3 seconds to get 2.28 m/s

then i multiplied 2.28x 3 seconds to get 6.83 meters

ShawnD pointed out your error: the final speed, at the end of the 3 seconds is 2.28 m/s. It was not going at that speed all the time. If you have not taken calculus, you can use this "short cut": as long as the acceleration is a constant, you can find the "average" speed by averaging the first and last speeds.

The shopping carts initial speed was, of course, 0. After 3 seconds, it had a speed of 2.28 m/s. The average speed was (2.28+0)/2= 1.14 m/s. How far did the shopping cart go at an average speed of 1.14 m/s for 3 seconds?
 
Oh cool. I didn't know you could do that.
 
One of the given equations in a non calculus class is something like

[tex]x= \frac 1 2 a t^2 + v_0t + x_0[/tex]

For this problem

[tex]v_0 =0[/tex] and [tex]x_0 = 0[/tex]

you have a and t, simply do the computation to get the same result obtained above.
 

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