Is the U.S. Budget Deficit Putting Social Security at Risk?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of the U.S. budget deficit on Social Security, particularly in light of comments made by Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan. Participants explore the potential need for structural adjustments to Social Security and Medicare, considering demographic shifts and economic factors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about Greenspan's suggestion that budget balancing may involve cuts to Social Security, viewing it as an unfair burden on the poor.
  • Others argue that tax cuts for the wealthy should be reconsidered, suggesting that repealing these cuts would not harm the wealthy while benefiting the economy.
  • One participant highlights the significant role of consumer spending in the economy, suggesting that tax cuts can stimulate growth despite opposing views.
  • Another participant notes historical changes in retirement age and life expectancy, arguing that Social Security has become a burden due to alterations over time rather than its original design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the best approach to address the budget deficit and its impact on Social Security. There are competing views on whether tax cuts or social cuts are more effective, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of Greenspan's statements.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific economic data and historical context, but there are unresolved assumptions about the long-term sustainability of Social Security and Medicare in light of demographic changes.

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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan warned Congress Wednesday to move quickly to fix the nation's swollen budget deficit -- including measures that could cut some future Social Security payments -- to avoid even bigger problems for the nation's economy down the road...

...Greenspan said that, if the demographic shift is permanent -- and rising longevity makes that a realistic prediction -- then "significant structural adjustments" to Social Security and Medicare would be needed, particularly since Medicare benefits could skyrocket as medical technology advances

http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/25/news/economy/greenspan/index.htm?cnn=yes
 
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@#$! dude, no way, like that is totally out there.!
 
Yep, Greenspan is a "running dog of capitalism" if anybody on this green Earth is, and it's natural for him to balance the budget on the backs of the poor (who don't make enough to save, and are dependent on social security) instead of the rich (he never considered restoring the tax cuts Bush gave to the people making over $200,000 a year).

Added in edit. I now see that instead of not mentioning the tax cuts, Greenspan positively said they shouldn't be repealed. So he was an even stronger partisan of rich vs. poor.
 
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It is insane to say that the budget should be balanced by way of hurting the weak, instead of asking the powerful to make "sacrifices". Repealing the tax cuts for the wealthiest few won't hurt them a single bit, and will help the country in the long run.
 
2/3's of our economy is made of consumer spending. Tax cuts will help, despite the nay sayers. Greenspan has been listened to by both sides of the aisle for as long as he has been around.

What doesn't help, however, is bloated medicare bills (to the tune of 400 billion) and other wasteful government spending. Tax cuts and social cuts work (and are my preference) AND taxing and spending works (in it's own way). You can't half of each.
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And an interesting aside about social security...

The retirment age in 1940(when the first monthly check went out)was 65. Avg live expectancy for a male was 62 and for woman 67.


The retirment age in 2000 was 65. Avg live expectancy for a male is 74 and for woman 79. Add to this increased benefits from social security, including partial payout earlier than 65, and you get the idea.
Social security is a burden on the federal government, but not because it was designed that way, but because it has been altered over the years (benefits, time, ability for states to opt out of the system.)
 
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