What is Energy? Heat & Kinetic Energy

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The discussion revolves around the concept of energy, exploring its definition, nature, and the relationship between heat and kinetic energy. Participants examine energy from various perspectives, including theoretical, conceptual, and practical applications.

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  • Some participants propose that heat is simply kinetic energy, while others suggest that energy is a relative concept dependent on its application.
  • One participant argues that energy is a number or value used in calculations, emphasizing its contextual nature.
  • Another participant discusses the relativity of energy, using the example of a candy bar's energy being useful for humans but not for a jet engine, highlighting the importance of application in defining energy.
  • A later reply introduces the idea that energy causes a divergence in space-time curvature, suggesting a more complex relationship between energy and physical laws.
  • One participant notes that while the concept of energy is not fully understood, various forms of energy, such as mass-energy, are well-defined and conserved under certain conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the nature and definition of energy, with no consensus reached on a singular understanding of what energy is or how it should be characterized.

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Some claims rely on specific definitions of energy and its forms, while others highlight the contextual limitations of energy's utility. The discussion includes assumptions about energy conservation and its implications in different scenarios.

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What exactly is energy? Also, is heat just an effect caused by particles having a lot of kinetic energy?
 
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Yep. Heat is simply kinetic energy.

What is energy, though? I think Energy is a number, a value we can calculate for a certain situations, that we can use in certain calculations.
 
Energy, as such, is always relative to its application or potential for use in an application.
A candy bar will impart energy to a normal human because we are designed by nature to use sugars as chemical energy. The same candy bar fed into a jet engine would be useless if not disasterous.
The applications ability to utilize a specific source(whatever it might be, from food to photons)is what determines the attribute of calling it "energy"
With energy being the ability to do "work", what is energy for one set of circumstances is not the same for another. So, energy is a concept, a bilateral concept at that.
For example, let's say that physicists in the year 3000 produced a new element, say element 400. Let's further say that the element emitted enormous quantaties of neutrons and minor amounts of other particles. If there were no use for those emitted neutrons than the physicists might say "well, element 400 is curious but of no use"
In the year 3500, physicists discover a way to use those neutrons from element 400 to produce vasts amounts of electricity.
With that, element 400 is then considered an energy source.
Again, "energy" is wholly relative to application.
Just some thoughts, feel free to correct.
 
Energy is not quite arbitrary. It causes a divergence in space-time curvature to an extent that depends on the amount of energy. So, you can't just transform the energy away into nothing (because it must still cause the divergence).
 


Originally posted by repugno
What exactly is energy? Also, is heat just an effect caused by particles having a lot of kinetic energy?

Nobody really knows what energy is. For details on what I mean by that please see

http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/mech/what_is_energy.htm

That said - there are various forms of energy which is well-defined. mass-energy is one form. And it can be shown that if momentum is conserved then so is mass-energy. Mass energy, T, is defined as the sum of kinetic energy + rest energy and has the value

T = m0c2/sqrt{1-(v/c)2}

It can also be shown that total energy, E = T + V, is also conserved where V = potential energy. That is really the essence of what energy is. One of its assumed properties is that its (locally) conserved.
 
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