Hypnotist Entertainers: Real or Tricks?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of hypnosis, particularly in the context of entertainment and stage performances. Participants explore whether the effects of hypnosis are genuine or if they can be attributed to social dynamics, suggestibility, and other factors. The conversation touches on personal experiences, perceptions of suggestibility, and the psychological mechanisms involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants share personal experiences with hypnosis, suggesting that belief and willingness to participate are crucial for the process to work.
  • Others argue that the dramatic effects seen in stage hypnosis are largely influenced by social factors, such as the personality of volunteers and the expectations surrounding hypnosis.
  • A participant mentions that suggestibility is normally distributed, indicating that most people can be hypnotized to some extent, but fear and concentration issues can impede the process.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential risks of hypnosis for individuals with certain mental health conditions, with a note that stage hypnosis is banned in some countries.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the validity of hypnosis, suggesting that it may be a trick or a performance rather than a genuine psychological phenomenon.
  • Humorous exchanges occur, with participants joking about hypnosis and its effects, including references to popular culture and personal anecdotes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of hypnosis, with no clear consensus reached. Some believe in its validity while others are skeptical, leading to an ongoing debate about its mechanisms and effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about hypnosis, including the role of belief, suggestibility, and social dynamics, without resolving these complexities. The discussion reflects differing perspectives on the psychological and social aspects of hypnosis.

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We've all seen them on TV, or perhaps in a live show. People who will take invididuals or groups of people and make them do seemingly crazy things through the power of hypnosis.

Is this stuff real, or are there tricks?
 
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I have been hypnotised. I was given a suggestion that my elbow was stuck so that I could not bend my arm. It worked.

I have heard that hypnosis is dependent upon the willingness of the subject to believe it will work. This makes it sound like any crackpot idea ("it only works if you believe"), but I think there is a difference. Hypnosis works by reducing the subjects will to resist. Will and belief are intertwined. If you don't believe that you can set aside your mental defense mechanisms voluntarily, you will not do so, and you will not be hypnotized.

Njorl
 
The dramatic effects seen in stage hypnosis are mainly due to factors other than hypnosis itself - you wouldn't get people to behave the same way in other situations. The usual setup is:

1/ Volunteers from the audience are not going to be shrinking violets. Thus you have people who are prepared to be make a complete show of themselves, literally.
2/ Suggestibility tests e.g. hand clasp ("your hands are glued together" etc). This ensures only the most hypnotisible volunteers get used. The number of volunteers is further whittled down by upping the ridiculousness-level of the tasks - some will blossom, others will melt back into the audience.
3/ We all know how we are supposed to behave when hypnotised: under the hypnotist's control. We tend to conform to these 'social scripts'.
4/ Ever been on stage, the centre of attention and everyone loving it? Its a great feeling, and you want to do things that get more laughter & applause. And you don't want to let them down by not performing.
5/ Anything you do, you can blame on the hypnotist i.e. a license for disinhibition.

Hypnosis does play a part, but its really the social factors that make people behave outrageously. Note that people who have ever experienced schizophrenia, manic depression, or epilepsy should not volunteer, as the stress combined the hypnosis can trigger or exacerbate their condition. Indeed stage hypnosis is outlawed in many countries.
 
Only those with a WEAK mind, are able to be hypnotised.

The cartoon South Park had a great episode about "John Edwards" or whatever that poser is called.

Its a crock of ****...

By the way, number 42, are you the solution to the Universe? (just joking...)
 
I wish I was the solution to my bank overdraft and a couple of other things!

Hypnotic ability (or 'suggestibility') is normally distributed i.e. nearly all of us are hypnotisable to some degree. Two of the main impedements to being hypnotised are fear of being hypnotised and an inability to concentrate. The latter may be due to poor cognitive functioning.

Hope this helps.
 
I have often experienced so-called environmental hypnosis. Especially during long trips in automobiles, or even staring at the computer monitor.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now..., look into my eye...
 
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I am getting veeeerrrrry sleepy. But it's after midnight here, so that probably explains it.
 
Janitor, you are so funnie! :Smila:
Is something like JS a 'real' show ? I seen it sometimes,, they brutally bit each other on the stage. I guess they got paid when doing so, right ?
Or at around midnight, I used to see my bro watch boxing show on TV-those guys are bigger than normal bears. they hit and kicked cruelly.
:smila:
 
BoulderHead said:
Now..., look into my eye...
I'm TRYING! Quit movin' it AROUND! Can't you hold that dang thing STILL? (Is that a sign of temporal lobe epilepsy?)
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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I was hypnotized once by this Freudian Psychoanalyst during an abnormal psych course. It was the entire class and he made us believe that we sliced a lemon with our right hand and tasted it with the left hand.

Well, I very much tasted the lemon. It was very interesting.
 
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Nommos Prime (Dogon) said:
Only those with a WEAK mind, are able to be hypnotised.

Absolute rubbish! You know not of what you speak.

-Ray.
 

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