How to Correctly Apply Newton's Laws to Determine Forces on a Dragged Log?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Laws to determine the forces acting on a 75kg log being dragged along the ground. Participants explore the relationship between the applied force, resistive forces, and acceleration in the context of constant velocity and changing acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the correctness of initial answers regarding resistive forces and the required force for acceleration. Some suggest drawing free body diagrams to visualize the forces involved. Others discuss the implications of constant velocity versus acceleration on net forces.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts related to Newton's Laws, with some participants providing guidance on the importance of free body diagrams and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the resistive force and the necessary applied force for acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the free body diagram has not been covered in their coursework, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also confusion regarding the units of force and the application of Newton's Laws in this context.

Beretta
Messages
38
Reaction score
0
To drag a 75kg log along the ground at constant velocity, you have to pull in it with a horizontal force of 250N. a) what is the resistive force exerted by the ground? b) what horizontal foce must you exert if you want to give the log an acceleration of 2m/s^2?

----------------------------------------------------------------
Why my answer as -75kg as the resistive force exerted by the ground was concidered wrong? As well as 150N as the horizontal force that should be exerted to give the log an acceleration of 2m/s^2 was concidered wrong too.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
this really should have been posted in the homework help forum, but...

a) kg is not a unit of force. Draw a free body diagram and see what magnitude the force has to be (zero net force = zero acceleration = constant velocity)

b) if it takes 250N of force just to keep moving at a constant speed, how is possible to accelerate at 2m/s^2 with 100N less force?
 
We didn't cover the freebody digram yet. Would you please explain more?
 
Sure you did.

You
1) draw a picture of the object
2) draw in all of the forces
3) break the forces into X and Y components (they are all X in your problem)
4) add up the forces, taking into account + and - directions

If the object is moving at constant velocity the sum of the forces = 0
 
Sigam Fx = Fnx + wx + Fx = Ma = 0
Fnx = -wx - Fx
Fnx = -75kg - Fx cos 0
Fnx = -325 N ?
 
To drag a 75kg log along the ground at constant velocity, you have to pull in it with a horizontal force of 250N. a) what is the resistive force exerted by the ground? b) what horizontal foce must you exert if you want to give the log an acceleration of 2m/s^2?
---------------------------------------------------------

a) Is it 250N because of the constant acceleration?

b)
F = m*a
a = 2 m/s^2 and m = 75kg gives F = 150 N that must be 150 N over the 250 N the ground resists. so you must drag 400 N

Please help me out!
 
Last edited:
Originally posted by Beretta
To drag a 75kg log along the ground at constant velocity, you have to pull in it with a horizontal force of 250N. a) what is the resistive force exerted by the ground? b) what horizontal foce must you exert if you want to give the log an acceleration of 2m/s^2?
---------------------------------------------------------

a) Is it 250N because of the constant acceleration?

NO, it's 250N because of the constant SPEED! The acceleration is 0 so the "net" force is 0.

b)
F = m*a
a = 2 m/s^2 and m = 75kg gives F = 150 N that must be 150 N over the 250 N the ground resists. so you must drag 400 N

Please help me out!
Exactly right.
 
First and second law

Thank you very much :)
 

Similar threads

Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
8K
  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
6K