Uniform Magnetic Field Causes Induced Current in Loops

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The discussion revolves around the concept of induced current in conducting loops within a uniform magnetic field, specifically addressing scenarios where the magnetic flux appears unchanged. Participants explore the implications of Faraday's law and its application to moving loops and rotating disks.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the relationship between the movement of a conducting loop and the induced current, particularly in scenarios where the magnetic field is uniform and the loop area remains constant. They discuss specific cases like the Faraday disk dynamo and the implications of relative motion between the conductor and the magnetic field.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the conditions under which induced current occurs. Some have acknowledged potential misconceptions and are reconsidering their initial thoughts, particularly regarding the Faraday disk dynamo.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the definition of induced emf and its relation to changes in magnetic flux, as well as the specific mechanics of the Faraday disk dynamo. Participants are grappling with these concepts without reaching a consensus.

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by faraday's law induced current in a conducting loop is caused by changes in magnetic flux through that loop..
now, if you move a conducting loop through uniform magnetic field (fixed magnitude and direction) there is an induced current even though there is (apparently) no change in magnetic flux (the loop area stays the same and the magnetic field is uniform).. how come?

(this same question applies to the "faraday disk dynamo", if anyone is familiar with that)
 
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Has the angle between the normal to the conducting loop and the magnetic field changed at all?
 
no, I'm aware that this would correspond to a change in magnetic flux.. imagine a rectangular loop moving perpendicular through a uniform magnetic field or a circular disk rotating around a fixed axis (faraday's dynamo)
 
Originally posted by broegger
by faraday's law induced current in a conducting loop is caused by changes in magnetic flux through that loop..
now, if you move a conducting loop through uniform magnetic field (fixed magnitude and direction) there is an induced current even though there is (apparently) no change in magnetic flux (the loop area stays the same and the magnetic field is uniform).. how come?
Why do you think this true?
 
my book states that there is an induced emf everytime a conductor moves relative to a magnetic field.. but in the situations described this (as far as i can see) doesn't imply a change in magnetic flux.. e.g. in faraday's disk dynamo a conducting disk rotates about a fixed axis in a uniform magnetic field which causes an induced current - but how does the flux change in this situation?
 
You had made the statement that a conducting loop moving through a uniform magnetic field will have an induced current. I don't believe that's true.

You are also asking about Faraday's disk. That one is subtle and I don't think I can do it justice. (I will think about it.) Here's a website that gives it a shot. http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/sep99/937493491.Ph.r.html
 
Thanks for answering. I can see I'm not the only one troubled by the disk dynamo :) on closer considerations i agree that there cannot be a current in the 'rectangular loop'-situation I described.. but the disk dynamo is still a mystery
 

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