Can Numbers Reveal the Nature of God?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between numbers, particularly irrational numbers like Pi and Phi, and their potential implications for understanding the nature of God. Participants explore philosophical and mathematical perspectives on this topic, with references to irrationality and rationality in numbers.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Philosophical exploration
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions discussions at their campus regarding irrational numbers and their supposed connection to the rationality of God, seeking references for further exploration.
  • Another participant argues that irrational numbers like Pi are abstractly derived and suggests they can be expressed as rational numbers, although this claim is contested.
  • A later reply challenges the notion that irrational numbers can be rational, stating that rational and irrational are mutually exclusive and questioning the validity of the original claim.
  • Further contributions point out that there are established proofs demonstrating that Pi cannot be expressed as a rational number, suggesting that participants should familiarize themselves with these proofs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the nature of irrational numbers and their relationship to rationality. There is no consensus on the claims made about the implications of these numbers for understanding God.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on interpretations of mathematical definitions and proofs, which remain unresolved in the discussion. The topic also straddles philosophical and mathematical domains, leading to varied perspectives.

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References for god in numbers

I have been hearing a lot of talk around my campus at UTA about irrational numbers proving the rationality if you will about God. PI, Phi, episilon etc.

Anyone know any references or sites that I can check out to learn more.

Would love to hear everyone elses opinion to.

BTW: This post was originally a mistake so I edited it with a valid question that I was going to ask.

BTW2: This probably belongs in Philosophy
 
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IMO any irrational number, such as Pi, is but abstractly derived and can be expressed as a rational number...but there has been some argument over that.
 
BTW2: This probably belongs in Philosophy

As you wish! *whoosh*

BTW, you might want to edit the title to be something more descriptive.
 
Just one janitor's opinion--

Bunkum.


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Originally posted by Jug
IMO any irrational number, such as Pi, is but abstractly derived and can be expressed as a rational number

"Rational" and "Irrational" are mutually exclusive. What you are claiming is that "X AND ~X" is true, and it is not.

...but there has been some argument over that.

Not in any journal I have heard of.
 
Originally posted by Jug
IMO any irrational number, such as Pi, is but abstractly derived and can be expressed as a rational number...but there has been some argument over that.

There are explicit proofs posted online to show that pi can NOT be expressed as a rational number. Google pi irrational. And in MY humble opinion, everyone who wants to talk about this subject should first memorize the classic proof that [tex]\sqrt {2}[/tex] cannot be equal to a rational number p/q in lowest terms.
 

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