Potential Energy function problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a force defined as Fx = Ax^(-3) and its associated potential energy function. Participants are exploring how potential energy changes with respect to the position x and the implications of integrating the force function to find the potential energy.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force and potential energy, questioning how potential energy behaves as x increases. There are attempts to integrate the force function and considerations of the constant of integration.

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Some participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their thoughts on the integration process and the necessity of a constant in the potential energy function. There is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts involved, particularly around the integration and the implications of the results.

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A force is given by Fx = Ax^(-3) (this is A times x to the power -3), where A= 8N.m^3.
a) For positive values of x, does the potential energy associated with the force increase or decrease with increasing x?
(I did imagine what would happen to a particle that is placed at rest at some point a and is then released. The professor concidered my answer wrong to be decreasing!)
b) Find the potential energy function U associated with the force such that U approches zero as x approaches infinity.
I didnt know how to answer b)

I thank you in advance for your help
 
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Cristina, you have posted a number of similar problems without any sign that you have tried them yourself. One difficulty with that is that we don't know what techniques you have available.

Generally speaking "potential energy" due to the position of an object is the same as the work necessary to move the object into that postion (From some other position, of course. That's why potential energy is always relative to some position.)

In this case, the force is 8x-3. For positive x, the force is positive, "pushing" an object to the right (increasing x). Since it is necessary to do work against the force to move to the right (decreasing x), potential energy increases as x decreases and decreases as x increases.

Since "work= force times distance" for constant force,
work= the integral of f(x)dx when f is a variable.

Here, potential energy= [tex]\int 8x^{-3}dx[/tex]. Find that indefinite integral and choose the constant of integration so that it goes to 0 as x goes to infinity.
 
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I am working on it, honestly I am, since hours ago!
We don't cover integrals in this course nor in the calculus one which is a pre for this course. and believe or not its all about integrals here. would you give me a break, if I ask you what is an indefinite itegral?
 
The indefinite integral is -4/(x^2)but I don't see a need for a constant since it goes to zero as x increase.?
 
Originally posted by cristina
The indefinite integral is -4/(x^2)but I don't see a need for a constant since it goes to zero as x increase.?

As far as I know, you are correct. To check that theory, divide each term by the highest power of x.

[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{-4}{x^2}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{(\frac{-4}{x^2})}{(\frac{x^2}{x^2})}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{(\frac{-4}{\infty})}{1}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{0}{1}[/tex]
 
I am done with this one. thanks to you and hallsofIvy. would you mind helping me with the others please?!
 
There is always a "need for a constant"- the constant just happens to be 0 here!
 
I did put -4/(x^2) + c and c = 0.
 

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