Supplementary Prob 1 Conservation of Energy.

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The problem involves a girl swinging from a rope tied to a tree branch, with a focus on determining the minimum breaking tension required for the rope to avoid failure during the swing. The subject area relates to conservation of energy and dynamics, particularly centripetal motion and gravitational forces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of potential energy to kinetic energy and the relationship between centripetal acceleration and tension in the rope. Questions arise regarding the role of gravity in calculating tension and the correct formulation of forces acting on the girl.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants attempting to clarify the relationship between centripetal acceleration and gravitational force. A few participants express confusion about the calculations and the factors that need to be considered, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus on the correct approach.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of energy conservation and the forces acting on the girl during her swing, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations and assumptions regarding gravity's influence.

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A girl of mass m ties a rope of length R to a tree branch over a creek and starts to swing from rest at a point that is a distance R/2 lower than the branch. What is the minimum breaking tension for the rope if it is not to break and drop the girl into the creek?
 
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A girl of mass m ties a rope of length R to a tree branch over a creek and starts to swing from rest at a point that is a distance R/2 lower than the branch. What is the minimum breaking tension for the rope if it is not to break and drop the girl into the creek?

Her potential energy will change into kinetic energy.

[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^2 = mgh[/tex]

[tex]v = \sqrt{2gh}[/tex]

substitute values into that

[tex]v = \sqrt{19.6(\frac{R}{2})}[/tex]

The tension in the rope is based on the girl's centripetal acceleration AND the force of gravity (am I right now?)

[tex]F = ma (gravity) + ma (centripetal)[/tex]

[tex]F = m(9.8) + m(\frac{v^2}{R})[/tex]

[tex]F = 9.8m + m\frac{(\sqrt{19.6\frac{R}{2}})^2}{R}[/tex]

[tex]F = 9.8m + m\frac{19.6\frac{R}{2}}{R}[/tex]

try to simplify from there
 
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May you please explain more on why The tension in the rope would be based on the girl's centripetal acceleration?
 
Because force is mass times acceleration!
 
I think I made a mistake, I did not factor in gravity. Re-read my previous post now that I have fixed it.
 
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Ok true, I start getting the concept!
thank you very much
 
I am lost now, where you didn't factor gravity? the minimum tension would be 19.6m.
 
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