Maximizing Airflow for Screen Printing Table

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a screen printing table that utilizes airflow to hold down paper. Participants explore various methods to create sufficient suction to keep the paper flat, considering factors such as fan types, airflow measurements, and the practicality of different vacuum solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Patrick outlines a design for a screen printing table with an airtight box and small holes for airflow, seeking advice on the necessary airflow (CFM) to hold down thick paper.
  • Some participants suggest using a small vacuum, noting that suction power is more critical than flow rate for this application.
  • Cliff mentions that plugging unused holes can reduce the required flow rate, potentially allowing for a smaller vacuum to be effective.
  • Patrick expresses a preference for avoiding a vacuum due to transportability concerns and considers using a bathroom exhaust fan instead.
  • There is clarification that CFM refers to the volume of air moved, not the speed, and that typical computer fans may not generate sufficient pressure for this application.
  • Patrick shares that a bathroom fan was able to hold the thick paper flat during testing, suggesting it might work for the final design.
  • Cost considerations are discussed, with Patrick noting that ceiling fans are cheaper than vacuum options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for achieving the desired airflow. While some advocate for vacuum solutions, others support the use of fans, leading to multiple competing views on the most effective approach.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific CFM requirements for the setup, the effectiveness of different fan types, and the impact of hole configuration on airflow efficiency.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY screen printing setups, airflow dynamics in small-scale applications, and cost-effective solutions for creating suction in portable designs.

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hi all, I'm going to be building a screen printing table and ran into a question of airflow. Not being much of a science minded person I came across this site and thought I might find some help. Basically think of a box (4x25x35 roughly) it's airtight. except for a bunch of 1/16" holes drilled through the top. The holes are to hold down the paper. Now I need something to propel the air out of the box so that it sucks in through the holes, sucking down the paper. I had thought computer fans would be nice as they would fit nicely and they are light and can be transported easily. my question is how much cfm would the fans have to be able to push to pull the paper flat (the paper is relatively thick BTW). Is there a formula of somekind that could help me here, or does anyone know roughly through experience what it would take? I looked around and most fans seem to move between 35-119 that are the right size. Another question is if this could be done with say two or three, et cetera, would it push as much air if the fan were lined side by side as if they were sandwiched together producing a tunnel of sorts. It almost seems logical to me that a tunnel might move more air, any insight is appreciated.
Patrick
 
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a small-vac will do the trick. A 2 gallon vac will produce enough vacuum to firmly hold paper down. You might get away with a gallon vac even. I'd buy the smaller one, give it a try. If it doesn't work, take it back, and get a slightly larger one.
 
Suction power is far more important than flow rate. Faust9's suggestion is the most inexpensive way to create a vacuum table.

BTW, plugging unused holes on the table surface around the border of the piece (assuming it doesn't cover them all) will reduce the flow rate needed by the fan also, so you might get by with the little vac, or if you need the flexibility to leave some holes open you might need a bigger one.

Cliff
 
I appreciate the feedback, I was trying to get around using a vacuum though as the unit needs to be easy to transport. I'm now thinking a bathroom exhaust fan might be the ticket. Another question though, how is cfm measured, is it the amount of air, or the speed of the air, the reason I ask is many ceiling fans are the same as computer fans which seemed odd as I thought it was an amount.
Patrick
 
CFM is an amount, like a gallon is an amount of liquid. Speed would be MPH or ft/s.

A regular computer fan doesn't generate much positive/negative pressure. A bathroom fan might be a little better, but most will just barely hold up a paper towel (something to try in your bathroom).

A vacuum is typically optimized for higher pressure (negative, or vacum) and lower flow. A one gallon shop vac like Wal-Mart carries is pretty tiny. Maybe even a dust-buster sized unit.

Cliff
 
thanks for the info cliff. the cfm was hanging me up. I did try a bathroom fan with the thick paper i will be using and it was able to suck the paper flat and stay by itself even with the weight of the paper working against it. the table will have the weight of the paper working with it so I think it will work. basically I'm trying to make this as cheap as possible and a ceiling fan can be had for 15 bucks where as a vacuum is usually quite a bit higher.
Patrick
 

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