Why Does My Smoke Detector Go Off When I Shower?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the issue of smoke detectors going off during showers, exploring various reasons and humorous anecdotes related to this phenomenon. Participants share personal experiences, technical insights about smoke detector types, and suggestions for mitigating false alarms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Humorous

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration with smoke detectors that activate during showers, suggesting it may be due to sensitivity to steam or water vapor.
  • Humorous suggestions include wrapping the detector in a plastic bag or using it as a means of blackmail against an "archrival."
  • Technical explanations are provided regarding the types of smoke detectors, specifically ionization and photoelectric detectors, and their mechanisms of operation.
  • One participant shares a personal story about a false alarm triggered by a hot pan, highlighting the unpredictability of smoke detectors.
  • Several participants mention the idea of closing the bathroom door to prevent the alarm from going off, with humorous commentary about pets reacting to the closed door.
  • There are anecdotes about the absurdity of dealing with smoke alarms, including running out of the shower in panic and the challenges of resetting malfunctioning detectors.
  • Some participants share experiences of their smoke detectors not functioning properly or having similar issues, indicating a shared problem among them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar frustrations and humorous takes on the issue, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution or understanding of why the alarms go off during showers. Multiple competing views and anecdotes remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various types of smoke detectors and their sensitivities, but there are unresolved questions about the specific model and installation of the detectors in question. Some technical details about detector operation may depend on individual circumstances and definitions.

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..we recently got a smoke detector installed by the city. It seems to have some kind of an identity crisis.. it goes off every time we take a shower

Sure, at least we regularly get the confirmation its still working not really my idea of practicality though..
 
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Yes, but you'll never be caught unawares by a steam monster when you're asleep.
 
Originally posted by Monique
... it goes off every time we take a shower

Quit taking showers together.
 


Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Quit taking showers together.
ooohhh! that must be it! now why didn't I think of that myself?
*ugm*.. not..
 
it wouldn't be attached to a sprinkler system would it? Then you could have a communial shower.
 
Replace the identity crisis smoke detector with a regular detector. Take the id crisis detector and place it near your archrival's shower. Make sure you put it in a locked box where no one can access it. Blackmail your archrival for some money or you won't take the id crisis detector down.

hehe.

edit: maybe I have been watching too many movies...
 
Look on the back for a little switch that has two positions, "Smoke" and "Personal Hygiene." Make sure it's set to "Smoke."

- Warren
 
chroot said:
Look on the back for a little switch that has two positions, "Smoke" and "Personal Hygiene." Make sure it's set to "Smoke."

- Warren

I thought that was so funny that I had to run this around again.

That was a good one... :biggrin:
 
We couldn't find the switch, so now we are only taking cold showers so the problem is solved :wink:

Actually, the electricity and water bills are significantly cheaper now.. and any time someone DOES turn on the hot water, they'll be immediately caught :evilsmiley:
 
  • #10
More than you wanted to know about smoke detectors...

I had a similarly confused smoke detector.

Monique if you can get the city to fix it (good luck) then ignore this post and let them deal with it, but if you are on your own and are interested in fixing it, you may want to know a few things before you seek a smoke detector that is secure in its identity.

If I remember it correctly, there are two basic types of smoke detectors, ionization detectors and photoelectric detectors.

Ionization detectors use a small amount of a radioactive material (usually Americium-241) to ionize the air in an open chamber, creating a current. When smoke molecules (or water vapor) enter the chamber, they attach to the ions. The change in the current flow triggers the alarm. To save money the trigger is a preset current threshold, instead of a shift in the current. So if there is less radioactive material, or a little extra dust in the chamber, the detector will be more sensitive (sometimes annoyingly sensitive). So you may be able to reduce the number of false alarms by cleaning out the chamber with some compressed air.

Photoelectric detectors use a light emitting diode (LED) and a photodiode. The LED emits infrared light in a narrow beam across a chamber and the photodiode is usually positioned 90 degrees to the beam. When the smoke enters the chamber it scatters the beam and the photodiode detects the light and triggers the alarm when it reaches a certain amount. Photoelectric detectors are less sensitive to vapors.

Ionization detectors are common and photoelectric detectors are mainly used in area in confined areas or areas prone to vapor. There is one other option, it isn’t a smoke detector, it is called a heat detector. It is basically just an alarm triggered by a thermistor or thermocouple, set to a temperature threshold or a rate of rise in the temperature.
 
  • #11
Really.. that's interesting.. I didn't know smoke detectors worked that way, thanks Macgyver :) An embarresing story is that I once actually had the firedepartment on my doorstep because of a false alarm.. nothing had happened! I had just put a hot pan in the sink and rinsed it with water, apparently that set of the smoke alarm, which wasn't the smoke alarm but the central security system of the house, which called directly to the firedepartment.. the truck was standing in the front lawn and a fireman banging on my door in what seemed two minutes :S and I didn't have a clue what was going on and how they appeared out of nothing..

And then there are the student apartments with all the Asians leaving their rice on the stove a little too long :P boy, there were a lot of false alarms..
 
  • #12
btw, did anyone think to put a plastic bag over the detector when you take showers?
 
  • #13
Be aware that cameras are often hidden in mundane objects such as "smoke detectors." :eek:
 
  • #14
Loren Booda said:
Be aware that cameras are often hidden in mundane objects such as "smoke detectors." :eek:
Then make that a DARK plastic bag! :wink:
 
  • #15
haha, we just close the bathroom door.. not that the cats like that.. they start scratching the door and miauwing until they are finally let in, after which they want to get out again.. demonstratively pulling the towels from the door to the floor.. ah well..
 
  • #16
That's strange. I started reading about you taking a shower and my smoke alarm went off.
 
  • #17
Last time I checked it was a discussion about smoke detectors.. men!
 
  • #18
Monique said:
haha, we just close the bathroom door.. not that the cats like that.. they start scratching the door and miauwing until they are finally let in, after which they want to get out again.. demonstratively pulling the towels from the door to the floor.. ah well..
:biggrin: Let's see... Cold showers... or...towels on the floor? Um, I think I'll take the towels on the floor! :biggrin: :wink:
 
  • #19
I think some people need the cold shower ;)
 
  • #20
Monique said:
I think some people need the cold shower ;)
:biggrin: :biggrin: tribdog! To the showers! NOW! Make it REAL COLD! :biggrin: :biggrin:
 
  • #21
This is spooky, Monique. My smoke detector did the same thing last week. And as Ivan suggested, I have been wrapping it with a baggie and rubber band.
There's nothing like running out of the shower dripping wet, soap in your eyes, piercing alarms blasting your eardrums, jumping up and down in the hallway and furiously swatting a smoke detector with a towel until it is beaten into submission. The only thing better is when it spontaneously goes off at 3 AM.
My landlord just replaced my smoke detector about a month ago. I wonder if we have the same brand?
 
  • #22
lol, my smoke detectors don't work... well, one does but i don't think that is the one near the shower... or maybe both don't work.. never had the problem with them spontaneously going off.
 
  • #23
Math Is Hard said:
There's nothing like running out of the shower dripping wet, soap in your eyes, piercing alarms blasting your eardrums, jumping up and down in the hallway and furiously swatting a smoke detector with a towel until it is beaten into submission.
Now, THERE are some visuals! :eek: :biggrin:
 
  • #24
I have a confession to make. I murdered my smoke detector. :frown:

Last year I was watching tv one night and the stupid smoke detector upstairs outside my bedroom went off. I used a broom handle to push the reset button to turn it off, as I do when it goes off for no reason, but the stupid thing would not shut off. I kept hitting it until I had almost knocked it off the ceiling when I smelled the unmistakable odor of burning electronics. I opened my daughter's bedroom door and saw flames shooting up to the ceiling.

My daughter loved to burn candles, and she had left the house with a new candle burning that she forgot to remove the plastic wrapper from & when it burned to that point, it flamed up, setting the box of "strike anywhere" kitchen matches ablaze, which set the stereo the candle was on, on fire.

The flames were about to set the drapes on fire. After a couple of minutes of throwing buckets of water on the fire and shutting off the electricity, I was able to put the fire out. Another minute & the drapes & bed would have caught fire & it would have been too late. Her room is between my room and the stairs, so I would have been trapped by the flames.

Fire alarms are annoying, but I am probably alive today thanks to one.

And I killed it. :frown:
 
  • #25
Evo said:
And I killed it. :frown:
Now, that's GRATITUDE! :biggrin: :biggrin:
 

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