Why is 10 the Standard Base Number in Mathematics?

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The discussion centers on the historical and cultural reasons for the prevalence of base 10 in mathematics, primarily attributed to human anatomy, specifically having ten fingers. Participants noted that other bases, such as base 60 used by the Babylonians and base 20 by the Mayans, have been utilized in different cultures. The conversation highlights that any number greater than one can serve as a base in a positional system, and regardless of the base chosen, the representation of the number one in that base is always "10". This underscores the arbitrary nature of base selection in numeral systems.

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Why is 10 a base number? Why not 4? Is it because we can count to 10 on our fingers? This sounds like a stupid question I know but it's been bugging me.
 
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Nobody knows the exact answer (probably because there is no exact answer), but that's probably about as good an answer as you'll get. It just kinda worked out that way.

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10 isn't the only one ever used; IIRC the Babylonians did everything base 60. :smile: 10 just happened to "win"
 
I can barely keep track of ten numbers, much less sixty. Multiplication would be absolute hell.

cookiemonster
 
otoh there are a lot more 1-digit numbers!
 
Those are usually the ones that give me trouble...

cookiemonster
 
I think the mayans used base 20.

Anyway, there are no "base numbers". Any number greater than 1 can be used as a base for a positional system.

And, no matter what number you choose for your base, the representation of that number in that base will be "10" (for instance, 2 in binary is "10"; 3 in base 3 is "10", etc).
 
ahrkron said:
I think the mayans used base 20.

Anyway, there are no "base numbers". Any number greater than 1 can be used as a base for a positional system.

And, no matter what number you choose for your base, the representation of that number in that base will be "10" (for instance, 2 in binary is "10"; 3 in base 3 is "10", etc).

The Tlingit people who lived along the Pacific coast of North America (Washington State and British Columbia) used sort of a "base 8" (there numeration system wasn't, strictly speaking, a "base" system) because they counted on the spaces between their fingers!
(As in- place index finger of right hand between thumb and index finger of left, say "1", place index finger of right hand between index and middle finger of left say "2", etc.)
 
The classic Greek astronomers had a neat system. They used the Babylonian base 60 but expressed the digits in their own traditional alphabetic system - α = 1, β = 2, and so on with specific combinations for digits above 10. You could probably simulate it by using Roman numerals for base 60 digits, from I to LIX plus zero.
 
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Not a stupid question at all.
becase we have 10 fingers.
 
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The question really should be "Why ten?" not "Why 10?".

Think about it. No matter what base we used, it would still be "10".

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LOL! So true! So the alien with three fingers would say "I have 10 fingers too. 1+1 = 2 and 2+1 = 10."
 
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steersman said:
Why is 10 a base number? Why not 4? Is it because we can count to 10 on our fingers? This sounds like a stupid question I know but it's been bugging me.
Base 10 is for our daily computation...
You don't need to take such a "base" to heart. Modern computers use base 2(-8-16) to represent all the stuff. If you like, you can also define yourself base 3,4,5,6,7 etc. It is not a matter of choice but a matter of which you have to deal with standard and common rules.
 
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I wonder if the numbers of fingers on a primitive organism determines its future intelligence.
 
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I had a math teacher in seventh grade, she was from nah awlens, in case you are having trouble with that, it is vernacular for New Orleans. She had a great accent, and described 12 as the queen of the numbahs, because it was divisible by so many primes, and we spent a couple of days discussing bases, and how it would have been much better if we had 12 fingers, so we could have used base 12. All in this thick accent. She was a hoot, in her Lady Bird Johnson hairdo, and pastel suits, she was at least 70 years old then.
 
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