Electrostatic force problem help with vector parts

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The problem involves calculating the electrostatic forces and resulting acceleration components for a charged particle influenced by two other charges positioned along the x-axis. The context is within electrostatics, specifically applying Coulomb's law and vector decomposition in a two-dimensional space.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces acting on a charge due to other charges, including the decomposition of these forces into x and y components. There are attempts to clarify angles used in calculations and the application of trigonometric functions.

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Some participants have confirmed calculations for the y-component of acceleration and provided feedback on the x-component calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct angles to use in the force component calculations, with differing opinions on the angles derived from the geometry of the setup.

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Participants are working under the assumption that gravity is negligible and are focused on the electrostatic interactions. There is some confusion regarding the angles used in the calculations, which may affect the accuracy of the force components derived from Coulomb's law.

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I've included a picture.

Two charges Qc and -Qc(Qc = 4 µC) are fixed on the x-axis at x = -7 cm and x = 7 cm, respectively. A third charge Qb = 5 µC is fixed at the origin.
A particle with charge q = 0.3 µC and mass m = 5 g is placed on the y-axis at y = 14 cm and released. There is no gravity.

a) Calculate x-component of acceleration of particle.
b) Calculate y-component of acceleratin of particle.
c) Magnitude of the net electric force on q at its point of release?
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Ok, I know the general idea of what I got to do. To get the acceleration, set the electrostatic force equal to mass times acceleration
F=ma
f/m=a

Now I got three charges in a line. For simplicity sake, let's call the charges from left to right in the line 1, 2,3, and charge 4 on the y axis.

Before I go any further, I realize that this is an iscoceles triangle.

When I draw the FBD on charge 4, I have a F4_2(force on 4 by 2) going vertical, F4_1 up to the right, and F4_3 down to the right.

With the use of Coulomb's law, I figured out the electrostatic force from each charge onto charge 4.

|F4_1|= |(k*q_1*q_4)/(.157m)^2| =>.4408N
|F4_2|= |(k*q_2*q_4)/(.14m)^2| => .689N
|F4_3|= |(k*q_3*q_4)/(.157m)^2| => .4408N

.157m is the sides of the triangles
.14m is the height of triangle
q1=4E-6 C
q2=5E-6 C
q3=-4E-6 C
q4=.3E-6 C
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Ok, I believe I'm doing good so far.

Now this is where I'm having trouble with. To get the x and y components of acceleration, I have to break up the electrostatic forces...btw, I'm getting these angles by putting the origin on q4 on my FBD.

x-component F4_1
.4408N * cos 70
y-component F4_1
.4408 sin 70

x-component F4_2
0
y-component F4_2
.689N*sin 90

x-component F4_3
.4408N * cos -70
y-component F4_3
.4408 sin -70
 

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Yes your calculation of a_y is correct.

and a_x by my calculation is 395.4605714 m/sec^2

Fx = F1x + F3x
= F1*cos(x) + F3*cos(x)
where x is angle between x-axis and F1, which is equal to that between x-axis and F3.
and cos(x) = 0.157/0.070 because it's right triangle.

if you calculate above
Fx = 2*F1*cos(x) ----------- because |F1| = |F3|
= 2*F1*(0.157/0.070)
= 1.977302857 N
and a_x = 1.977302857/0.005 = 395.4605717 m/sec^2
 
And by the way, don't forget to tell me whether my calculation is right.

Good luck. :biggrin:
 
"x-component F4_1
.4408N * cos 70
y-component F4_1
.4408 sin 70"

Where did you get "70"? Since your right triangles have legs of length 7 and 14, the angle at the base (at 1 and 3) are arctan(14/7)= 63.4 degrees. The opposite angle is 90- 63.4= 26.6 degrees (and the angle at the top of the isosceles triangle is twice that: 53.2 degrees.
The x-component of F4_1 is 0.4408* cos (63.4) and the y-component is
0.4408* sin(64.4)
 

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